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> An entire generation has been romanticized that if you "do what you love" you'll end up a billionaire. The complete opposite is true. The implication that fl

> An entire generation has been romanticized that if you "do what you love" you'll end up a billionaire. The complete opposite is true. The implication that flipping burgers will make you a billionaire is patently absurd. You should never feel ashamed about your work, but menial work in $current_year actually leads to poverty and hunger because it doesn't pay a living wage. An "entire generation" doesn't have illusions about how the world works. The 2008 recession was more than sufficient to dispel that. They just want food and shelter.

exabrial 8y ago
That's a ridiculous exaggeration of my words. Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. From there you move up. Better education, better job, more savings.
- jniedrauer 8y ago
  You said (paraphrased) "doing what you love will not make you a billionaire. The opposite is true. You should go flip burgers." This can either mean "doing what you love will make you poor. And also you should flip burgers" or "doing things you don't like will make you a billionaire." It's possible I misunderstood what you were saying, but whichever point you were trying to make, it's a patronizing extension of the typical boomer "millennials are entitled" refrain. > Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. None of these are true. I'm not sure when the last time you worked an entry level job like this was, but they haven't paid anything close to a living wage in a very long time.
  - exabrial 8y ago
    That's still an extreme exaggeration of my words. Your argument is pointless. > they haven't paid anything close to a living wage in a very long time That is definitely not true. One can eat a grocery store for a few bucks a week. You can rent a place for $250-$500/mo in the vast majority of cities in the country, excluding the cities where millennials are flocking to; take Topeka, Kansas, or Fayetteville, Arkansas, or any number of small cities scattered across the USA. Like I said in my initial comment, it's totally possible to pull yourself out of the situation, but one must forgo the flashy lifestyle of living in Seattle and the like.
- objectivetruth 8y ago
  Only a very small set of people are able to convert a $10/hour job into savings (minimum wage in many places is even less). Presumes you live in a state with subsidized medical care, presumes you have no kids, presumes you have no unexpected expenses like a blown engine or broken axle. Read Ehrenreich or any of the modern authors on poverty to realize that it's not just a matter of "Well, $10 an hour times 180 hours a month is $1800 and the median rent is $900, ergo everyone is fine!" Yes, it IS possible, but the goal of society is to make it easier for everyone not just the luckiest and most badass 5%.

exabrial 8y ago

That's a ridiculous exaggeration of my words. Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. From there you move up. Better education, better job, more savings.

jniedrauer 8y ago
You said (paraphrased) "doing what you love will not make you a billionaire. The opposite is true. You should go flip burgers." This can either mean "doing what you love will make you poor. And also you should flip burgers" or "doing things you don't like will make you a billionaire." It's possible I misunderstood what you were saying, but whichever point you were trying to make, it's a patronizing extension of the typical boomer "millennials are entitled" refrain. > Flipping burgers will put a roof over your head, buy you some food, and give you a small amount of savings. None of these are true. I'm not sure when the last time you worked an entry level job like this was, but they haven't paid anything close to a living wage in a very long time.
- exabrial 8y ago
  That's still an extreme exaggeration of my words. Your argument is pointless. > they haven't paid anything close to a living wage in a very long time That is definitely not true. One can eat a grocery store for a few bucks a week. You can rent a place for $250-$500/mo in the vast majority of cities in the country, excluding the cities where millennials are flocking to; take Topeka, Kansas, or Fayetteville, Arkansas, or any number of small cities scattered across the USA. Like I said in my initial comment, it's totally possible to pull yourself out of the situation, but one must forgo the flashy lifestyle of living in Seattle and the like.
objectivetruth 8y ago
Only a very small set of people are able to convert a $10/hour job into savings (minimum wage in many places is even less). Presumes you live in a state with subsidized medical care, presumes you have no kids, presumes you have no unexpected expenses like a blown engine or broken axle. Read Ehrenreich or any of the modern authors on poverty to realize that it's not just a matter of "Well, $10 an hour times 180 hours a month is $1800 and the median rent is $900, ergo everyone is fine!" Yes, it IS possible, but the goal of society is to make it easier for everyone not just the luckiest and most badass 5%.