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Using the signed exchange mechanism means you allow anyone to serve your content. You will no longer know when it has been served and by whom. Instead, Google w
by Tepix 8y ago
Using the signed exchange mechanism means you allow anyone to serve your content. You will no longer know when it has been served and by whom. Instead, Google will know more about what your users are consuming on your website than you - despite HTTPS!
Also, there is no mechanism to limit who is allowed to serve your content for you.
I see no technical reason why the content has to be prefetched from Google instead of your own server.
It's also confusing for users and administrators.
Want to block access to a website in your network?
Guess what: Your block will not be effective because Google will proxy the data unbeknownst to the firewall.
- jimktrains2 8y agoAmp does allow Google analytics and other analytics services. Unfortunately, most places don't use server logs for much :(
- Tepix 8y agoChances are if you don't want Google to serve your content to protect the privacy of your users, you don't want to use Google Analytics either. Btw your account seems rather active for an account with the description "Inactive. Deletion Requested." :-)
- atoav 8y agoOr if you want that stuff to work e.g. in China.
- tracker1 8y agoA bit more on this... there are a LOT of secondary bots out there, either searching for security holes to exploit or otherwise slurping content for reasons other than search. JS based analytics (google or otherwise) is generally a better option for detecting actual usage. Yeah, you lose maybe 2% of actual users. You also lose 99% of the various bots. You still have to filter google's and bing's bots that execute JS though.
- hknd 8y agoThe caching doesn't necessary need to be by Google. https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-amp-real-url/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-amp-real-url/
- codedokode 8y agoCaching not by Google doesn't give you a priority placement in the search carousel so it is pretty useless.
- singron 8y agoI think that product is still cached by Google. Cloudflare is just providing the cryptography for Web Packaging so that the browser will show the url from the original page instead of the Google cache.
- ihuman 8y ago> You will no longer know when it has been served and by whom I'm OK with publishers knowing less about the people seeing their content.
- zackbloom 8y agoThe reason it has to be prefetched from not-you is to protect the users privacy. Until they click a link it is not considered acceptable to leak their search to the potential destination. Links have to be fetched from a third-party who the search engine trusts not to share the data, that at the moment is Google but will hopefully expand.
- Tepix 8y ago„Considered acceptable“ by whom? Why should the user‘s privacy be protected toward the content provider instead of the search provider? The search provider already knows more about me.
- codedokode 8y agoGoogle already can do this by preloading a cached page from its own domain. So this specification is unnecessary. I think the real reason is that Google wants to build a walled garden, but doesn't want the walls to be noticeable. Even with AMP, they display a header that looks like a browser's address bar [1] Also, on that page Google admits that it uses AMP Viewer to collect information about users: > Data collection by Google is governed by Google’s privacy policy. Which is probably their real motication for creating AMP. [1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/about-amp https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/about-amp
- pvorb 8y agoExactly: Google built a walled garden and now replaces the fence by glass, because people don't like the view from inside their cage. The worst thing is, that it'll get away with it.
- pxtail 8y ago> I think the real reason is that Google wants to build a walled garden Exactly, this is the real reason why this abomination came into existence - all of this is masked as work for greater good all for those poor kids with limited network speed. As end effect everyone will suffer - user will never leave google ecosystem, he will remain on search page without even knowing about it, creator will lose control over his own content