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What is the track record then? On the one hand you seem to argue that the US justice system is sane, but on the other hand the US operates a prison that's one

by jules 16y ago

What is the track record then? On the one hand you seem to argue that the US justice system is sane, but on the other hand the US operates a prison that's one of the worst ever in existence (I for one would pick a death penalty over being tortured in said prison), and the justice system has not done anything about it. Why isn't the UK extraditing the operators of said prison for torturing UK citizens? (or are they?)

tptacek 16y ago
Worst ever in existence. Nice. (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.)
- jules 16y ago
  If you're going to quote something, quote it in such a way that it doesn't change the meaning. > one of the worst ever in existence Do you disagree with this? As far as I know the grounds for putting people in there were not good, and the torture that occurred in there was brutal, in fact it was so brutal that many prisoners tried to commit suicide. Would you commit suicide if I cut off your legs and arms? Probably not. Apparently these prisoners thought that what was happening to them was worse than cutting off their legs and arms. Can you name a prison that is worse? Yeah, Auswitz, for example, but that's not a very high standard to compare to is it? > (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.) Right. Which ones?
  - tptacek 16y ago
    Oh, did I misread you? Are you talking about Gitmo? Because he can't be sent there.
    - jules 16y ago
      Right my point was it does say something about the general sanity of the justice system for "terrorists"/"enemies of the US". I can certainly see how this guy could get the label "enemy of the US" and get a very harsh sentence. You still didn't back up your claims. >> (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.) > Right. Which ones?

by jules 16y ago

tptacek 16y ago

Worst ever in existence. Nice. (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.)

jules 16y ago
If you're going to quote something, quote it in such a way that it doesn't change the meaning. > one of the worst ever in existence Do you disagree with this? As far as I know the grounds for putting people in there were not good, and the torture that occurred in there was brutal, in fact it was so brutal that many prisoners tried to commit suicide. Would you commit suicide if I cut off your legs and arms? Probably not. Apparently these prisoners thought that what was happening to them was worse than cutting off their legs and arms. Can you name a prison that is worse? Yeah, Auswitz, for example, but that's not a very high standard to compare to is it? > (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.) Right. Which ones?
- tptacek 16y ago
  Oh, did I misread you? Are you talking about Gitmo? Because he can't be sent there.
  - jules 16y ago
    Right my point was it does say something about the general sanity of the justice system for "terrorists"/"enemies of the US". I can certainly see how this guy could get the label "enemy of the US" and get a very harsh sentence. You still didn't back up your claims. >> (The track record I was referring to was prior convictions and sentences for people whose computer crimes included intrusion in .mil systems.) > Right. Which ones?