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Human fallacy, we all want it faster and more. Bur for 99% of the cases, why would we need it? IoT doesn't need 5G, it needs LiRa. Streaming applications, I

Human fallacy, we all want it faster and more. Bur for 99% of the cases, why would we need it? IoT doesn't need 5G, it needs LiRa. Streaming applications, I can stream with 4G. 50 ms latency with 4G, so what. Except for competitive multiplayer gaming perhaps, I don't see the issue. But I think they want everything wired ;) Industrial applications, outside of IoT? Give me a valid example that needs countrywide coverage. I hardly notice difference with 4G and my WiFi. Increase coverage for 4G, before implementing 5G. Fyi: 4G offers maximum real-world download speeds up to 60Mbps. Currently, that is more than enough.

cloakandswagger 8y ago
> Industrial applications, outside of IoT? Give me a valid example that needs countrywide coverage. Police CAD systems, streaming video from body cameras, oil well monitoring. Just because you can't imagine an application of 5G for your consumer needs doesn't mean it isn't needed.
- pas 8y ago
  Oil well monitoring can work with the crappiest of GSM (a simple SMS every few minutes), no?
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  - Police CAD systems Why would a CAD system need > 60 Mbps? Why would it even need more than 30 kbs? I doubt it would need more than a MQTT channel and an app. - streaming video from body cameras Low quality over 4G and store the video in HD. Syncing on secure access-points ( the devices need to charge, sync there) Nothing more is required, since body cams are used as evidence. Also, live stream body cams already exist over 4G ( 1920 x 1080, 30FPS) - oil well monitoring IoT... Jeez... > Just because you can't imagine an application of 5G for your consumer needs doesn't mean it isn't needed. Like i said. You want more and faster. I already mentioned some applications, that also don't require it. Just like your examples, also don't require it. Again, human fallacy and you are providing excellent examples. Thanks.
newusertoday 8y ago
you still need more capacity, as the population grows more number of devices will compete for same 4g bandwidth and unlike optical fibre you cannot increase the bandwidth by adding new wire.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  5G needs way more capacity/stations than 4G
- pas 8y ago
  Well, the FCC could coordinate a move to a new standard that uses smaller cells for the same 4G frequencies, after all big parts of 5G is about handling increased density.
pas 8y ago
What is LiRa?
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  LoRa, sorry

cloakandswagger 8y ago

> Industrial applications, outside of IoT? Give me a valid example that needs countrywide coverage. Police CAD systems, streaming video from body cameras, oil well monitoring. Just because you can't imagine an application of 5G for your consumer needs doesn't mean it isn't needed.

pas 8y ago
Oil well monitoring can work with the crappiest of GSM (a simple SMS every few minutes), no?
NicoJuicy 8y ago
- Police CAD systems Why would a CAD system need > 60 Mbps? Why would it even need more than 30 kbs? I doubt it would need more than a MQTT channel and an app. - streaming video from body cameras Low quality over 4G and store the video in HD. Syncing on secure access-points ( the devices need to charge, sync there) Nothing more is required, since body cams are used as evidence. Also, live stream body cams already exist over 4G ( 1920 x 1080, 30FPS) - oil well monitoring IoT... Jeez... > Just because you can't imagine an application of 5G for your consumer needs doesn't mean it isn't needed. Like i said. You want more and faster. I already mentioned some applications, that also don't require it. Just like your examples, also don't require it. Again, human fallacy and you are providing excellent examples. Thanks.

newusertoday 8y ago

you still need more capacity, as the population grows more number of devices will compete for same 4g bandwidth and unlike optical fibre you cannot increase the bandwidth by adding new wire.

NicoJuicy 8y ago
5G needs way more capacity/stations than 4G
pas 8y ago
Well, the FCC could coordinate a move to a new standard that uses smaller cells for the same 4G frequencies, after all big parts of 5G is about handling increased density.

pas 8y ago

What is LiRa?

NicoJuicy 8y ago
LoRa, sorry