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Why? This doesn't look like anything new. It's just a cut down, low power variant of old, existing tech (zen, 14nm, vega - we've all heard this story for the la

Why? This doesn't look like anything new. It's just a cut down, low power variant of old, existing tech (zen, 14nm, vega - we've all heard this story for the last 2 years). It's kinda cool, but it's not worthy of an event of any kind, either. The article words it really badly for some reason. For example "dual quad-threaded cores" - except it isn't, it's dual dual-threaded cores, more commonly just referred to as 2c/4t. And calling it "triple vega cores" sounds cooler than the "vega 3" it actually is. Slightly faster than Intel's i3-8145U from Q3 last year (also 2c/4t), but same basic product & capabilities as those that have been on the market for years. Only semi-interesting part is the dual 10gbe. Cost on that would be the interesting part if this suddenly results in a new lineup of consumer NAS products with cheap 10gbe options.

type0 8y ago
ECC memory support in such a small package is interesting. I I don't have high hope that we'll get a consumer lineup and buying the industrial pc is usually not worth it if you need to build a NAS.
- rjsw 8y ago
  That isn't totally new, I have a version of HP MicroServer with an AMD CPU that has ECC memory.
- kllrnohj 8y ago
  > ECC memory support in such a small package is interesting Intel has been equipping Atom SoCs with ECC support for a while now. For example the Atom c3950 - 16 cores, ecc memory, 24w TDP, and a tray price of $389.00 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/97940/intel-atom-processor-c3950-16m-cache-up-to-2-20-ghz.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/97940/i... You'll find all sorts of fun supermicro boards using Atom CPUs in this series at reasonable-enough retail prices, even. > buying the industrial pc is usually not worth it if you need to build a NAS I was more thinking Synology or Qnap consumer/SOHO NAS products, not DIY NAS.
  - type0 8y ago
    > I was more thinking Synology or Qnap consumer/SOHO NAS products, Yeah, lets just hope so. Why I was skeptical is that the margins is so low in consumer products that good hardware is often not even given a consideration by the producers. Although that might be changing as consumers get more and more educated and start to demand more from the companies.
zepearl 8y ago
I'd love 10gbe. I was just transferring 320GBs until a few minutes ago and it took more or less 1h until it was done :(
- kllrnohj 8y ago
  fwiw there's oodles of cheap, used 10gb expansion cards on the market these days if you got a spare PCI-E slot (just search ebay for like the mellanox connectx-3 or connectx-2). Switches with 2+ 10gb ports are also quite affordable now, too, like the CSS326-24G-2S+RM which has 2 SFP+ (10gb) ports for $140. Cheap enough to get you a NAS & a primary PC on 10gb anyway. 10GBaseT is still super expensive, though, unfortunately.
  - snvzz 8y ago
    I'd want a nbase-t managed (at least vlans) switch, but no dice.

type0 8y ago

ECC memory support in such a small package is interesting. I I don't have high hope that we'll get a consumer lineup and buying the industrial pc is usually not worth it if you need to build a NAS.

rjsw 8y ago
That isn't totally new, I have a version of HP MicroServer with an AMD CPU that has ECC memory.
kllrnohj 8y ago
> ECC memory support in such a small package is interesting Intel has been equipping Atom SoCs with ECC support for a while now. For example the Atom c3950 - 16 cores, ecc memory, 24w TDP, and a tray price of $389.00 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/97940/intel-atom-processor-c3950-16m-cache-up-to-2-20-ghz.html https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/97940/i... You'll find all sorts of fun supermicro boards using Atom CPUs in this series at reasonable-enough retail prices, even. > buying the industrial pc is usually not worth it if you need to build a NAS I was more thinking Synology or Qnap consumer/SOHO NAS products, not DIY NAS.
- type0 8y ago
  > I was more thinking Synology or Qnap consumer/SOHO NAS products, Yeah, lets just hope so. Why I was skeptical is that the margins is so low in consumer products that good hardware is often not even given a consideration by the producers. Although that might be changing as consumers get more and more educated and start to demand more from the companies.

zepearl 8y ago

I'd love 10gbe. I was just transferring 320GBs until a few minutes ago and it took more or less 1h until it was done :(

kllrnohj 8y ago
fwiw there's oodles of cheap, used 10gb expansion cards on the market these days if you got a spare PCI-E slot (just search ebay for like the mellanox connectx-3 or connectx-2). Switches with 2+ 10gb ports are also quite affordable now, too, like the CSS326-24G-2S+RM which has 2 SFP+ (10gb) ports for $140. Cheap enough to get you a NAS & a primary PC on 10gb anyway. 10GBaseT is still super expensive, though, unfortunately.
- snvzz 8y ago
  I'd want a nbase-t managed (at least vlans) switch, but no dice.