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We value your privacy at $0.0003 per click!

by kurthr 8y ago

duxup 8y ago
I'm working on a side project and the setup is basically that you get to see all the data I have on you. Granted this is a tiny project that is largely just for me, but as a policy that seems like that is the most clear cut way to go.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  But could I both delete the data you have and tell you not to collect more? Transparency is great, but all by itself it means little.
  - duxup 8y ago
    Yeah I don't see why not. Generally just showing all the data is there to inform, and then the user can not participate or say as you ask delete. I was thinking I'd put a delay on the actual deleting of data to prevent something malicious. Granted this is all just a personal side project primarily for my personal use and education ;)
- soared 8y ago
  The big data players have tools for this. For example: https://datacloudoptout.oracle.com/registry/ https://datacloudoptout.oracle.com/registry/
  - duxup 8y ago
    That's interesting, I wonder how that came about.
    - soared 8y ago
      Yeah kind of cool. I believe tools like that came from either mass opt-out tools by the Network Advertising Initiative or the Digital Advertising Alliance. http://optout.networkadvertising.org/?c=1 http://optout.networkadvertising.org/?c=1
      - JohnFen 8y ago
        Those tools are worthless, though. I wonder if Oracle's is any better.
        soared 8y ago
        They accomplish what they intend to do, its just that most users want them to do more. If you use that tool on all of your devices (and don't clear your cookies/etc) you will be opted out of those vendors tracking. But that doesn't accomplish since that type of targeting only makes up maybe 15% of targeted advertising. All that tool does is get you shittier ads. (Oracle's just shows you what data they know about you, it doesn't actually delete or opt you out).
        JohnFen 8y ago
        > They accomplish what they intend to do, its just that most users want them to do more. That hasn't been my experience. When I've used the tools, the opt-outs have failed for the majority of the companies in the list (as reported by the site itself). That said, as you point out, they're pointless even if they worked correctly as you still have to engage in all the blocking that you usually do regardless. > (Oracle's just shows you what data they know about you, it doesn't actually delete or opt you out). Ah, so Oracle's offering is worse -- worthless by design rather than implementation.
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We value your privacy at $0.0003 per click!

by kurthr 8y ago

We value your privacy at $0.0003 per click!

I'm working on a side project and the setup is basically that you get to see all the data I have on you. Granted this is a tiny project that is largely just for me, but as a policy that seems like that is the most clear cut way to go.

JohnFen 8y ago
But could I both delete the data you have and tell you not to collect more? Transparency is great, but all by itself it means little.
- duxup 8y ago
  Yeah I don't see why not. Generally just showing all the data is there to inform, and then the user can not participate or say as you ask delete. I was thinking I'd put a delay on the actual deleting of data to prevent something malicious. Granted this is all just a personal side project primarily for my personal use and education ;)
soared 8y ago
The big data players have tools for this. For example: https://datacloudoptout.oracle.com/registry/ https://datacloudoptout.oracle.com/registry/
- duxup 8y ago
  That's interesting, I wonder how that came about.
  - soared 8y ago
    Yeah kind of cool. I believe tools like that came from either mass opt-out tools by the Network Advertising Initiative or the Digital Advertising Alliance. http://optout.networkadvertising.org/?c=1 http://optout.networkadvertising.org/?c=1
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      Those tools are worthless, though. I wonder if Oracle's is any better.
      - soared 8y ago
        They accomplish what they intend to do, its just that most users want them to do more. If you use that tool on all of your devices (and don't clear your cookies/etc) you will be opted out of those vendors tracking. But that doesn't accomplish since that type of targeting only makes up maybe 15% of targeted advertising. All that tool does is get you shittier ads. (Oracle's just shows you what data they know about you, it doesn't actually delete or opt you out).
        JohnFen 8y ago
        > They accomplish what they intend to do, its just that most users want them to do more. That hasn't been my experience. When I've used the tools, the opt-outs have failed for the majority of the companies in the list (as reported by the site itself). That said, as you point out, they're pointless even if they worked correctly as you still have to engage in all the blocking that you usually do regardless. > (Oracle's just shows you what data they know about you, it doesn't actually delete or opt you out). Ah, so Oracle's offering is worse -- worthless by design rather than implementation.
- deleted 8y ago
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