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When the tech demos in stores made the main use case how clear newspaper text looks in 4k instead of 1080p i realized we probably had reached the end of the TV

When the tech demos in stores made the main use case how clear newspaper text looks in 4k instead of 1080p i realized we probably had reached the end of the TV resolution S-curve.

melling 8y ago
Guess they should have shown you the larger color space? https://nofilmschool.com/2013/07/4k-uhd-color-space-gamut-frame-rate https://nofilmschool.com/2013/07/4k-uhd-color-space-gamut-fr... Personally, I'd like a nice large wall size screen where I can "spread out my work" and read it. Throw in a Minority Report interface so I'm not stuck with a mouse and keyboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SFeCgoep1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SFeCgoep1c
- teddyh 8y ago
  > Personally, I'd like a nice large wall size screen where I can "spread out my work" and read it. > Throw in a Minority Report interface so I'm not stuck with a mouse and keyboard: Remember the gorilla arm. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html
  - melling 8y ago
    Sure. That was almost 2 decades ago. We've given it some more thought. https://atap.google.com/soli/ https://atap.google.com/soli/
    - teddyh 8y ago
      Maybe that specific technology allows users to rest their arms on top of something while gesturing (even though it is not shown in any of the demo videos), but you specifically asked for a “Minority Report interface”, which does not do that.
      - bduerst 8y ago
        Soli uses radar, so the scale of minority report is achievable. It's just that the target use case with soli is geared towards gesturing at your mobile device.
        teddyh 8y ago
        I’ve no idea what your argument is. My point is that a “Minority Report interface”, which you specifically wanted, is hampered by the “gorilla arm” problem. You pointed to the Google Soli thing, but that does not (from what I can tell) seem to solve the gorilla arm problem either, and even if it did, a “Minority Report interface” would still have the gorilla arm problem.
        melling 8y ago
        I guess I should have simply said gesture UI. Of course, I'd like eye-tracking and voice UI too. I simply said "Minority Report interface" to help people visualize the idea. How about Iron Man's Jarvis? Would you have had a silly little rant over that too? [Update] Jarvis video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7RCJvoCMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7RCJvoCMc
        teddyh 8y ago
        > I guess I should have simply said gesture UI. I would think that it’s hard to do those without the gorilla arm problem, since I haven’t seen any without it. If you have, please elaborate. > Of course, I'd like eye-tracking and voice UI too. Sure, those are no problem for the arms. But, IIRC, people whose job it is to talk all day have been shown to have a higher rate of vocal cord cancer. But, sure, that’s a different problem. > How about Iron Man's Jarvis? The movies (of which your linked clip is a representative sample) essentially show a Minority Report-style interface with a holographic display instead of a large flat display. Nothing about the gestures themselves changes, so from what I can tell, it, too, would have the gorilla arm problem if it were to be used for any length of time. > Would you have had a silly little rant over that too? I really don’t think anything I wrote deserved that jab.
- asdff 8y ago
  Projector?

When the tech demos in stores made the main use case how clear newspaper text looks in 4k instead of 1080p i realized we probably had reached the end of the TV resolution S-curve.

melling 8y ago

Guess they should have shown you the larger color space? https://nofilmschool.com/2013/07/4k-uhd-color-space-gamut-frame-rate https://nofilmschool.com/2013/07/4k-uhd-color-space-gamut-fr... Personally, I'd like a nice large wall size screen where I can "spread out my work" and read it. Throw in a Minority Report interface so I'm not stuck with a mouse and keyboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SFeCgoep1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SFeCgoep1c

teddyh 8y ago
> Personally, I'd like a nice large wall size screen where I can "spread out my work" and read it. > Throw in a Minority Report interface so I'm not stuck with a mouse and keyboard: Remember the gorilla arm. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html
- melling 8y ago
  Sure. That was almost 2 decades ago. We've given it some more thought. https://atap.google.com/soli/ https://atap.google.com/soli/
  - teddyh 8y ago
    Maybe that specific technology allows users to rest their arms on top of something while gesturing (even though it is not shown in any of the demo videos), but you specifically asked for a “Minority Report interface”, which does not do that.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      Soli uses radar, so the scale of minority report is achievable. It's just that the target use case with soli is geared towards gesturing at your mobile device.
      - teddyh 8y ago
        I’ve no idea what your argument is. My point is that a “Minority Report interface”, which you specifically wanted, is hampered by the “gorilla arm” problem. You pointed to the Google Soli thing, but that does not (from what I can tell) seem to solve the gorilla arm problem either, and even if it did, a “Minority Report interface” would still have the gorilla arm problem.
        melling 8y ago
        I guess I should have simply said gesture UI. Of course, I'd like eye-tracking and voice UI too. I simply said "Minority Report interface" to help people visualize the idea. How about Iron Man's Jarvis? Would you have had a silly little rant over that too? [Update] Jarvis video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7RCJvoCMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7RCJvoCMc
        teddyh 8y ago
        > I guess I should have simply said gesture UI. I would think that it’s hard to do those without the gorilla arm problem, since I haven’t seen any without it. If you have, please elaborate. > Of course, I'd like eye-tracking and voice UI too. Sure, those are no problem for the arms. But, IIRC, people whose job it is to talk all day have been shown to have a higher rate of vocal cord cancer. But, sure, that’s a different problem. > How about Iron Man's Jarvis? The movies (of which your linked clip is a representative sample) essentially show a Minority Report-style interface with a holographic display instead of a large flat display. Nothing about the gestures themselves changes, so from what I can tell, it, too, would have the gorilla arm problem if it were to be used for any length of time. > Would you have had a silly little rant over that too? I really don’t think anything I wrote deserved that jab.
asdff 8y ago
Projector?