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> Barbican had turned both the male and female toilets gender neutral simply by replacing the “men” and “women” signage with “gender neutral with urinals” and “
by umvi 8y ago
> Barbican had turned both the male and female toilets gender neutral simply by replacing the “men” and “women” signage with “gender neutral with urinals” and “gender neutral with cubicles”. The obvious happened. Only men were using the supposedly “gender neutral with urinals” and everyone was using the “gender neutral with cubicles”. Rather than rendering the toilets genuinely gender neutral, they had simply increased the provision for men.
How do you "[render] the toilets genuinely gender neutral?"
It seems to me the men started using both restrooms, but the women refused to use cubicles that shared the same space as urinals? Why?
I imagine the most efficient gender neutral restroom scheme would be something like:
Upright urination has one dedicated queue. Sitting down urination has another queue. Defecation has another queue.
You could then have just one huge restroom with LEDs above cubicles that designate an opening for a particular queue like a parking garage. That way cubicles can be dynamically allocated based on the size of defecation vs urination queues.
Kind of like how at work you have 2 microwaves - one for people who need to zap their food for less than a minute, one for people that need to cook their lunch for more than a minute.
- grawprog 8y agoI've always been kind of baffled why women would want gender neutral bathrooms. Men's bathrooms are fucking disgusting. The few times i've had to use a women's bathroom, they were always beautiful. They were clean, there wasn't shit smeared on the walls, there wasn't a dude standing next to me making conversation while staring at your dick. Not to mention, piss trenches. You've never had a real public bathroom experience until you've stood in a line of 20 dudes all pissing together into a trench built into the back wall of the bathroom. I just don't understand why you'd wish access to this or would want your space turned into this.
- ebog 8y agoIn this case it seems more like someone in charge, man or woman, thought they were making things better by letting all people access any restroom. Maybe they didn't think it through, or maybe it was a man trying to do the right thing but without consulting any women first. It's clear that women don't want this.
- mises 8y agoPeople in charge like it because it's cheaper. It means less excess capacity is needed.
- belorn 8y agoPublic unisex bathrooms need to be cleaned, regularly. Fast food restaurants clean them several times each day, every second or third hour. Higher end restaurants clean them every hour. Gender bathrooms in more expensive locales get this treatment as well, as can be seen in airports. You don't have shit smeared on airports bathrooms. Bringing the hygiene standard up to a minimal is simply a good thing that benefit both women and men. > I've always been kind of baffled why women would want gender neutral bathrooms. Ever seen a long line to the women's bathroom but no line for the men's bathroom?