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Do we, really? If we learned that such a practice was widespread in a Christian or Jewish community, it would count disfavorably in the esteem most of us have o

Do we, really? If we learned that such a practice was widespread in a Christian or Jewish community, it would count disfavorably in the esteem most of us have of them, and this surely must be the case for us who have read about the bus segregation in the article. In addition, poor opinion we have of certain Muslim countries with gender segregation is due not only to this but also of many other rights violations in the news. If one should learn of such a practice in a community in the US, we'd feel that they should nevertheless share many values with us as when compared to a Muslim community in the US, and that sharing more values than a community in a Muslim country; the disparity between our esteem toward Jewish communities and Muslim communities in the US coming from their greater historical presence in the US. I shall not comment on whether such is warranted. And since I had only recently of it, gender segregation is quite alive in significantly many Israel Jewish communities.

bjourne 8y ago
But such practice is widespread in some Christian and Jewish sects! I'm not making stuff up. > the disparity between our esteem toward Jewish communities and Muslim communities in the US coming from their greater historical presence in the US. I shall not comment on whether such is warranted. No, perhaps you should not comment on it. Because defending the disparity is defending racism. Segregating children by gender from a young age is child abuse no matter what the religion is. That we accept Christians and Jews doing it to their children but not Muslims is pure hypocrisy.
- jhanschoo 8y ago
  > But such practice is widespread in some Christian and Jewish sects! I'm not making stuff up. I agree, and I think it counts against them to the rest of us. For example, many of us do not think highly at all about cultish Christian sects. > Because defending the disparity is defending racism. Indeed. What I'm trying to do here is model how the notion can come about, simply by being ignorant and not by any directed racist thought against any one group. That is, even if the only discrimination we receive from our environment about the various communities were our frequency of interaction with these respective due to proximity and integration, we are inclined to this notion. The post I was responding to was in general attitudes for the general population; and I assume that people are generally ignorant about religious communities in their own country and in other countries. Hence how this ignorance leads reasonably to a notion. In addition, I don't think it is necessarily racist to have such an opinion, especially if one also understands that it is likely to be horribly misinformed and comes from ignorance. It becomes racist only if you choose to act on the notion, or communicate it without also communicating that the opinion comes from ignorance. Rather, the responsible thing to do is to perform adequate due diligence to form an educated opinion on it once your opinion on the matter becomes of importance to anything.

bjourne 8y ago

But such practice is widespread in some Christian and Jewish sects! I'm not making stuff up. > the disparity between our esteem toward Jewish communities and Muslim communities in the US coming from their greater historical presence in the US. I shall not comment on whether such is warranted. No, perhaps you should not comment on it. Because defending the disparity is defending racism. Segregating children by gender from a young age is child abuse no matter what the religion is. That we accept Christians and Jews doing it to their children but not Muslims is pure hypocrisy.

jhanschoo 8y ago
> But such practice is widespread in some Christian and Jewish sects! I'm not making stuff up. I agree, and I think it counts against them to the rest of us. For example, many of us do not think highly at all about cultish Christian sects. > Because defending the disparity is defending racism. Indeed. What I'm trying to do here is model how the notion can come about, simply by being ignorant and not by any directed racist thought against any one group. That is, even if the only discrimination we receive from our environment about the various communities were our frequency of interaction with these respective due to proximity and integration, we are inclined to this notion. The post I was responding to was in general attitudes for the general population; and I assume that people are generally ignorant about religious communities in their own country and in other countries. Hence how this ignorance leads reasonably to a notion. In addition, I don't think it is necessarily racist to have such an opinion, especially if one also understands that it is likely to be horribly misinformed and comes from ignorance. It becomes racist only if you choose to act on the notion, or communicate it without also communicating that the opinion comes from ignorance. Rather, the responsible thing to do is to perform adequate due diligence to form an educated opinion on it once your opinion on the matter becomes of importance to anything.