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> If an organization like Mozilla fails to reach it, I just want to get a sense of where the bar is set. Telemetry that's not on by default would certainly be
by flukus 8y ago
> If an organization like Mozilla fails to reach it, I just want to get a sense of where the bar is set.
Telemetry that's not on by default would certainly be one measure, I don't know about apple but mozilla certainly fails. If they don't understand the need to gain consent before collecting statistics on their users then they don't understand privacy.
- Someone1234 8y agoApple themselves does the same. Therefore the position is that doing something Apple does makes you unqualified to criticize Apple. That would by extension make Apple themselves unqualified to criticize Apple, which is a rather unusual bar. What I find curious about many comments in this thread is that few want to address the issue itself, but instead would rather either shoot the messenger or argue that even raising the issue is unacceptable. Why are people so opposed to discussing this and why is Mozilla's record or reputation even relevant here?
- flukus 8y ago"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" we've got a pretty long history of having a higher expectation of the person/organisation doing the criticism and this is no exception. As for the actual criticism I'd agree with the blog, the fact that phones come with an advertiser ID at all is a sad sign of the state of our industry.
- floatingatoll 8y agoIt might be because the point stands up well to argument: - Should Apple do it? Yes. No downsides are apparent. - Will it help many users? Yes. Many users will benefit. - Is it a panacea? No. Rulebreaking apps will rulebreak. Thus the career detractors are forced to invoke unrelated topics to continue their press conferencing.