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I have zero experience seeing black people being treated badly, or gay people, or children being abused... This type of anecdote carries no water and is an atte

I have zero experience seeing black people being treated badly, or gay people, or children being abused... This type of anecdote carries no water and is an attempt to deny that people have different experiences based on their identities. It shouldn't matter in our world today, but it does.

whatshisface 8y ago
"Never seen it," holds more water than nothing, after all if it was common enough everyone would see it all the time. There's no doubt that it happens but you can't just assume from the outside that someone is secretly in a horrible situation just because they're of a certain race gender age etcetera. Hopefully we can get across to kids, don't avoid STEM out of fear, because there's definitely not a 100% chance that you will be signing yourself up for a lifelong struggle. One time someone told me that the worst part was how the other gender was extremely awkward around them in college. No, you are not going to have to storm the beaches of Normandy.
- SiempreViernes 8y ago
  My friend was robbed, but I wasn’t there to see it. Still, I belive his testimony about it even though I’ve never actally witnessed a robbery in real life (as far as I’m aware). On the strength of this evidence I guess you agree that they can’t be that common, surely not as much as 70% of all property crimes?
  - belorn 8y ago
    The problem with generalization is how quickly it turn dark. Robberies... I know someone who was robbed by a immigrant, and I believe them. I also know that social economic factors play a huge role in crime, and that people who flee from war and immigrant to my country is on average on the lower scale on the social economic ladder. So what generalization should we apply here? Best practice is basically to do nothing and see to the individuals.
  - slavik81 8y ago
    > On the strength of this evidence I guess you agree that they can’t be that common, surely not as much as 70% of all property crimes? I couldn't believe this based on my personal experience (burglarized 3 times; robbed 0). Looking into it further, police statistics support my skepticism. In Canada, where my personal experience applies, robbery is considered a violent crime, not a property crime, but I suppose we can compare the rate regardless. In 2017, there were 62 reported robberies per 100,000 people. This is in comparison to 3,523 property crimes per 100,000 people. Thus, robberies would make up 2% of all property crimes. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article/54974-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article...
cheez 8y ago
Well if you're going to use that as an example, I've seen all of those but not bad treatment of women in STEM. To be fair, I have been fortunate enough to work in very high tech/financially rewarding environments, so perhaps it's less of an issue there.

whatshisface 8y ago

"Never seen it," holds more water than nothing, after all if it was common enough everyone would see it all the time. There's no doubt that it happens but you can't just assume from the outside that someone is secretly in a horrible situation just because they're of a certain race gender age etcetera. Hopefully we can get across to kids, don't avoid STEM out of fear, because there's definitely not a 100% chance that you will be signing yourself up for a lifelong struggle. One time someone told me that the worst part was how the other gender was extremely awkward around them in college. No, you are not going to have to storm the beaches of Normandy.

SiempreViernes 8y ago
My friend was robbed, but I wasn’t there to see it. Still, I belive his testimony about it even though I’ve never actally witnessed a robbery in real life (as far as I’m aware). On the strength of this evidence I guess you agree that they can’t be that common, surely not as much as 70% of all property crimes?
- belorn 8y ago
  The problem with generalization is how quickly it turn dark. Robberies... I know someone who was robbed by a immigrant, and I believe them. I also know that social economic factors play a huge role in crime, and that people who flee from war and immigrant to my country is on average on the lower scale on the social economic ladder. So what generalization should we apply here? Best practice is basically to do nothing and see to the individuals.
- slavik81 8y ago
  > On the strength of this evidence I guess you agree that they can’t be that common, surely not as much as 70% of all property crimes? I couldn't believe this based on my personal experience (burglarized 3 times; robbed 0). Looking into it further, police statistics support my skepticism. In Canada, where my personal experience applies, robbery is considered a violent crime, not a property crime, but I suppose we can compare the rate regardless. In 2017, there were 62 reported robberies per 100,000 people. This is in comparison to 3,523 property crimes per 100,000 people. Thus, robberies would make up 2% of all property crimes. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article/54974-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article...

cheez 8y ago

Well if you're going to use that as an example, I've seen all of those but not bad treatment of women in STEM. To be fair, I have been fortunate enough to work in very high tech/financially rewarding environments, so perhaps it's less of an issue there.