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> Nvidia is just too entrenched with gamers No reason to think that. Ryzen showed that despite years of neglecting gamers (FX really was horrible for games) th
by onli 8y ago
> Nvidia is just too entrenched with gamers
No reason to think that. Ryzen showed that despite years of neglecting gamers (FX really was horrible for games) they come back as soon as the offer is better. Maybe less in the first generation, but in the second of just having the better offer they do (with the Ryzen 2000 series).
AMD is already still popular in the RX 570/580 segment, if Navi were competitive AMD would be fine there.
CUDA might be a different story, that depends on the software and if tensorflow etc is even still relevant then.
- plopz 8y agoRyzen is still worse for games though, it just doesn't have the single-threaded performance.
- jagger27 8y agoWe're talking single percentage point differences at this point versus the very best Intel silicon.
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- onli 8y agoI'm collecting benchmarks and creating a global one in https://www.pc-kombo.com/benchmark/games/cpu https://www.pc-kombo.com/benchmark/games/cpu. The best Intel cpus are faster because they have a higher clock. Where the clock is equal Ryzen is minimally slower, and they are cheaper then while having more threads. Regardless, the Ryzen processors reach very good FPS in current games, look at the FPS of the Ryzen 5 2600 for example (https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%5B%5D=AMD+Ryzen+5+2600 https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%...).
- lazyjones 8y agoAre these run with all the available Spectre/Meltdown fixes or without?
- onli 8y agoThat depends on each individual benchmark (hover over/click on the bar to go to the source). I'd say: Most of the time the patches are applied.
- Krasnol 8y agoThat's quite an useful and very clean page. Thank you :)
- plopz 8y agoLooks to me like the i5s have lower clock, lower tdp same price but perform better than the ryzens.
- onli 8y agoWell, that's kind of true. 2600X vs i5-8400 is the goto comparison for that, since they both are at 4 GHz (4.1 vs 4.0), see https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%5B%5D=Intel+Core+i5-8400&ids%5B%5D=AMD+Ryzen+5+2600X https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%... for that. Yes, the i5-8400 is a bit faster while having a lower tdp and being at the same price, depending on the game of course. But the 2600X is unlocked and comes with a better cooler. And the Ryzen 5 2600 is cheaper than both while also being unlocked, and the cooler is still better than that of the i5. The 2600 especially is really attractive, even more so if you factor in that AM4 is the better supported platform (it will run on the board you bought for the Ryzen 3 1200 when that series was released, and it is supposed to run the Ryzen 3000 series). There now is the i5-9400F which is again a little bit faster than the i5-8400 while being cheaper. If that one had a cheaper board than the Z390 chipsets supporting it out of the box it would be a real reason for AMD to lower the price of the Ryzen 5 2600(X).
- lagadu 8y ago"Popular" is a very strong word for the 580 and Polaris in general; according to the steam hardware survey[0], the 1060 has a bit over 15% of the users while the 580, 480, 570 and 470 don't even reach 3% combined. [0] https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
- onli 8y agoGood point. Maybe what I'm seeing is already included in the jump from 0.68% to 1.20%. Dunno, I really get the impression that the RX 580 is a more popular option than the 1060 in the communities I look at, though many there now pick more expensive RTX cards. Obviously I don't see the whole picture.
- Fjolsvith 8y agoI just got 6 RX-580's for about $125 apiece. Great card and great prices.