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this is spot on. drop terraform and go with cloudformation. initially set it up throgh the console to learn what needs to be done and after that write the templ

this is spot on. drop terraform and go with cloudformation. initially set it up throgh the console to learn what needs to be done and after that write the template or even better find one someone has already written. pro level startup: set it manually and use cloudformer. +1 on the comments regarding wiring and lambda in non-vpc vs vpc context also, if you want K8s, there is this thing called EKS.

KaiserPro 8y ago
> even better find one someone has already written. Alas, that never really works with multi account setups. Its sometimes useful for seeing which magic line one is missing, but the level of incorrect boilerplate out there on github is staggering.
- scarface74 8y ago
  I have multi account code pipeline/Cloud Formation setups for deploying lambdas and related resources. Once I got the hang of it (with a lot of help from AWS support admittedly), it’s not that bad. I probably could have figured it out, but why bother when we are paying for the business support plan?
  - jjeaff 8y ago
    Funny, I was just talking to an experimental quantum physicist today and one of the other people there asked him, doesn't the complexity just make your head spin? He said, "no, once you get the hang of it and you are dealing with it every day, it's not that bad.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Oh I completely agree. I felt completely incompetent when it came to AWS 18 months ago. But now with a lot of studying for 5 certifications (just as an organized company paid study plan), a lot of late nights beating my head on my desk, some green field initiatives, and abuse of our business support plan with AWS’s excellent live chat support,I’m pretty comfortable with most of the non obscure parts Of AWS outside of the Docker and Big Data/ML parts. I’ll be working on those over the next year.
      - mirceal 8y ago
        I personally “grew up” while AWS was born and grew and have been slowly exposed to most of the services as they were released / enhanced. I agree that It can be confusing as f for a newcomer. This is definitely an opportunity for training courses/labs/moocs to figure out how to make the learning curve less steep.
- mirceal 8y ago
  hah. not github. most services have cloudformation snippets in the aws docs. they mostly work. also, compared to terraform, cloudformation is state-of-the-art when it comes to actually bringing shit up
japan2006 8y ago
some so-called genius always like showing off and building k8s cluster by themselves, instead of using managed services.
paulddraper 8y ago
> also, if you want K8s, there is this thing called EKS. Which is absurdly overpriced. $1,728/yr just to run an empty cluster.
- mirceal 8y ago
  1700$/year ? sounds like a steal to me. how much are you paying a human for setting up and operating a cluster?
  - paulddraper 8y ago
    Nothing. There is no overhead charge for Fargate.

KaiserPro 8y ago

> even better find one someone has already written. Alas, that never really works with multi account setups. Its sometimes useful for seeing which magic line one is missing, but the level of incorrect boilerplate out there on github is staggering.

scarface74 8y ago
I have multi account code pipeline/Cloud Formation setups for deploying lambdas and related resources. Once I got the hang of it (with a lot of help from AWS support admittedly), it’s not that bad. I probably could have figured it out, but why bother when we are paying for the business support plan?
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Funny, I was just talking to an experimental quantum physicist today and one of the other people there asked him, doesn't the complexity just make your head spin? He said, "no, once you get the hang of it and you are dealing with it every day, it's not that bad.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Oh I completely agree. I felt completely incompetent when it came to AWS 18 months ago. But now with a lot of studying for 5 certifications (just as an organized company paid study plan), a lot of late nights beating my head on my desk, some green field initiatives, and abuse of our business support plan with AWS’s excellent live chat support,I’m pretty comfortable with most of the non obscure parts Of AWS outside of the Docker and Big Data/ML parts. I’ll be working on those over the next year.
    - mirceal 8y ago
      I personally “grew up” while AWS was born and grew and have been slowly exposed to most of the services as they were released / enhanced. I agree that It can be confusing as f for a newcomer. This is definitely an opportunity for training courses/labs/moocs to figure out how to make the learning curve less steep.
mirceal 8y ago
hah. not github. most services have cloudformation snippets in the aws docs. they mostly work. also, compared to terraform, cloudformation is state-of-the-art when it comes to actually bringing shit up

japan2006 8y ago

some so-called genius always like showing off and building k8s cluster by themselves, instead of using managed services.

paulddraper 8y ago

> also, if you want K8s, there is this thing called EKS. Which is absurdly overpriced. $1,728/yr just to run an empty cluster.

mirceal 8y ago
1700$/year ? sounds like a steal to me. how much are you paying a human for setting up and operating a cluster?
- paulddraper 8y ago
  Nothing. There is no overhead charge for Fargate.