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I find that having a 163 IQ generally helps -- people in this bracket generally don't have such problems because they can easily reason out of their current sit

I find that having a 163 IQ generally helps -- people in this bracket generally don't have such problems because they can easily reason out of their current situation. I can empathize with people who can't, though, but it's definitely a mental state.

tyingq 7y ago
"Superior IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders, research suggests" It calls out mood and anxiety disorders, which might be a disadvantage in this situation. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bad-news-for-the-highly-intelligent/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bad-news-for-the-...
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msvan 7y ago
Clearly, because every human problem is a problem of reasoning.
barrkel 7y ago
Being smart often doesn't correlate with being able to relate well to other people, and in the end, other people are what give you options, not really reasoning. You need to be valuable to other people, which requires empathy and an element of salesmanship at the very least.
noonespecial 7y ago
Really? The happiest man I ever knew was a plant maintanenance guy with a GED who couldn't have been more than a 90. The most miserable guy I ever knew had a PhD and was for sure a "genius" at 160+. Sure it's just anecdata, but sometimes "try not to think so much" seems like good advice.
c22 7y ago
My iq has been measured at 158 and I have definitely felt trapped before. Sure I "reasoned out" of these situations eventually, but I suspect most do. Do you suppose there are people who really find themselves trapped forever?
- abecedarius 7y ago
  Similar here: IQ in the same range, and there was a time early in my career when I'd started a job that turned out to be a poor fit. I had just paid off student loans in preference to having savings. There are worse traps than not wanting a bad look on your resumé, but that feeling was definitely there.
- cheesymuffin 7y ago
  There is a BIG difference between 158 and 163.
  - tyingq 7y ago
    It is within what's quoted as the acceptable margin of error of 5 points. It's 5 points either direction, so it's possible GP's IQ exceeds yours.
Neil44 7y ago
People with high IQ's are often better at fooling themselves.
- sys_64738 7y ago
  Trump has an IQ of 156 apparently!
FiddlyPack 7y ago
This is a surprising perspective to hear. All the really smart people I know happen to struggle with a variety of difficulties in this area, and I think it’s related to a paralysis of choice, not just in terms of choosing between outcomes available to them personally, but also in choosing between different outcomes for their friends and the world, none of which is utopia. On the other hand, the few sub-100 IQ people that I know well enough to have a sense of seem to be more content with their lot in life, having long ago learned that they do not have much agency to change it, and thus are more accepting of whatever situation they find themselves in.

tyingq 7y ago

"Superior IQs are associated with mental and physical disorders, research suggests" It calls out mood and anxiety disorders, which might be a disadvantage in this situation. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bad-news-for-the-highly-intelligent/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bad-news-for-the-...

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msvan 7y ago

Clearly, because every human problem is a problem of reasoning.

barrkel 7y ago

Being smart often doesn't correlate with being able to relate well to other people, and in the end, other people are what give you options, not really reasoning. You need to be valuable to other people, which requires empathy and an element of salesmanship at the very least.

noonespecial 7y ago

Really? The happiest man I ever knew was a plant maintanenance guy with a GED who couldn't have been more than a 90. The most miserable guy I ever knew had a PhD and was for sure a "genius" at 160+. Sure it's just anecdata, but sometimes "try not to think so much" seems like good advice.

c22 7y ago

My iq has been measured at 158 and I have definitely felt trapped before. Sure I "reasoned out" of these situations eventually, but I suspect most do. Do you suppose there are people who really find themselves trapped forever?

abecedarius 7y ago
Similar here: IQ in the same range, and there was a time early in my career when I'd started a job that turned out to be a poor fit. I had just paid off student loans in preference to having savings. There are worse traps than not wanting a bad look on your resumé, but that feeling was definitely there.
cheesymuffin 7y ago
There is a BIG difference between 158 and 163.
- tyingq 7y ago
  It is within what's quoted as the acceptable margin of error of 5 points. It's 5 points either direction, so it's possible GP's IQ exceeds yours.

Neil44 7y ago

People with high IQ's are often better at fooling themselves.

sys_64738 7y ago
Trump has an IQ of 156 apparently!

FiddlyPack 7y ago

This is a surprising perspective to hear. All the really smart people I know happen to struggle with a variety of difficulties in this area, and I think it’s related to a paralysis of choice, not just in terms of choosing between outcomes available to them personally, but also in choosing between different outcomes for their friends and the world, none of which is utopia. On the other hand, the few sub-100 IQ people that I know well enough to have a sense of seem to be more content with their lot in life, having long ago learned that they do not have much agency to change it, and thus are more accepting of whatever situation they find themselves in.