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But how do you explain this then? > When strippers were hired to mix with people at the Saturday night event everyone attended, that made everyone uncomfortabl

by VMG 16y ago

But how do you explain this then? > When strippers were hired to mix with people at the Saturday night event everyone attended, that made everyone uncomfortable I suspect that there is some level of ignorance and even acceptance in the community

JonnieCache 16y ago
Yeah. Hiring strippers to hang out at a dev conference is off-the-scale creepy. I am a 23yr old male and I would run a mile if I saw that. Partly because I have moral disagreements but mostly because I can forsee no way in which the interactions happening in such an environment, a big room full of drunk hackers and strippers, could be anything better than awkward and embarrassing to the point of delirium. Worst case, well that doesn't need to be said. On no planet is it anywhere near appropriate. Jobs may as well crack a load of miscarriage/rape gags during his next keynote, thats on the same level IMO.
- TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
  Perhaps they were acting out that gods awful movie Swordfish. Then again, I really do not want to know.
btilly 16y ago
Yeah, that one was pretty egregious. I think that only a small minority of organizers would be that insensitive. Given the number of conferences and events there are, I don't think that that can be taken as typical. Most of the other incidents were something that can be explained by a relatively small number of creeps. In one of them there was clear evidence that said creep had done the same thing to multiple women.
- VMG 16y ago
  Why was he still allowed to go to these events then? He should have been banned from attending after the first time.
  - btilly 16y ago
    Re-reading the article, the story I'm thinking of was Mackenzie Morgan's. She was grabbed from behind and kissed. She says that she found out that it happened to someone else as well at the same party. It is not clear to me that she actually knew the guy's name, or that she reported the incident. If she didn't report the incident (women rarely do), how could he be banned?

by VMG 16y ago

JonnieCache 16y ago

Yeah. Hiring strippers to hang out at a dev conference is off-the-scale creepy. I am a 23yr old male and I would run a mile if I saw that. Partly because I have moral disagreements but mostly because I can forsee no way in which the interactions happening in such an environment, a big room full of drunk hackers and strippers, could be anything better than awkward and embarrassing to the point of delirium. Worst case, well that doesn't need to be said. On no planet is it anywhere near appropriate. Jobs may as well crack a load of miscarriage/rape gags during his next keynote, thats on the same level IMO.

TheAmazingIdiot 16y ago
Perhaps they were acting out that gods awful movie Swordfish. Then again, I really do not want to know.

btilly 16y ago

Yeah, that one was pretty egregious. I think that only a small minority of organizers would be that insensitive. Given the number of conferences and events there are, I don't think that that can be taken as typical. Most of the other incidents were something that can be explained by a relatively small number of creeps. In one of them there was clear evidence that said creep had done the same thing to multiple women.

VMG 16y ago
Why was he still allowed to go to these events then? He should have been banned from attending after the first time.
- btilly 16y ago
  Re-reading the article, the story I'm thinking of was Mackenzie Morgan's. She was grabbed from behind and kissed. She says that she found out that it happened to someone else as well at the same party. It is not clear to me that she actually knew the guy's name, or that she reported the incident. If she didn't report the incident (women rarely do), how could he be banned?