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So use an ad blocker. It's about thirty seconds to set up, and very user-friendly. Even with the default lists, they do a great job. The reason I take issue

by mises 8y ago

So use an ad blocker. It's about thirty seconds to set up, and very user-friendly. Even with the default lists, they do a great job. The reason I take issue is the word you used above: "attack". I think its use is telling. The New York Times has broken newsworthy information that was against Facebook, which I think is their job and a good thing to do. Newspapers, however, aren't really supposed to "attack" things. This is part of the reason there is such distrust in the media; many news publications are indeed attacking various things and not even trying to hide it.

Nextgrid 8y ago
So following your logic the solution to knife crime would be to tell everyone to wear armor instead of putting the criminals in jail? > Newspapers, however, aren't really supposed to "attack" things I would consider it an attack if they were publishing lies. But I don't see any lies here - Facebook has dug their own grave and is now rightfully getting what they deserve.
- ThomPete 8y ago
  Is Facebook comitting a crime? Not sure i understand your analogy.
  - Nextgrid 8y ago
    Facebook is actually trying to fight a fine from Belgium's privacy regulator, so they definitely committed a crime, at least there: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/belgium-facebook-court-privacy-breaches-ads https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/belgium-f... My analogy was that it shouldn't be up to me to defend myself from someone else's nefarious actions. I should not have to install ad blockers to avoid getting stalked by Facebook.
    - ThomPete 8y ago
      But you havent explained the crime yet.
username223 8y ago
> So use an ad blocker. It's about thirty seconds to set up, and very user-friendly. Even with the default lists, they do a great job. Have you ever tried to set up ad/tracker blocking for a non-tech person? If it actually protects their privacy, then it's also a huge pain in the ass that randomly breaks things and requires constant attention. DNS- or IP-level blocking works best, but requires constant maintenance. Then there are the various caches. What breaks when you block "*.googleapis.com"? Then there's the question of which user-hostile JavaScript APIs you try to block. WebGL? WebUSB? And from whom? It's endless war.

by mises 8y ago

Nextgrid 8y ago

So following your logic the solution to knife crime would be to tell everyone to wear armor instead of putting the criminals in jail? > Newspapers, however, aren't really supposed to "attack" things I would consider it an attack if they were publishing lies. But I don't see any lies here - Facebook has dug their own grave and is now rightfully getting what they deserve.

ThomPete 8y ago
Is Facebook comitting a crime? Not sure i understand your analogy.
- Nextgrid 8y ago
  Facebook is actually trying to fight a fine from Belgium's privacy regulator, so they definitely committed a crime, at least there: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/belgium-facebook-court-privacy-breaches-ads https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/15/belgium-f... My analogy was that it shouldn't be up to me to defend myself from someone else's nefarious actions. I should not have to install ad blockers to avoid getting stalked by Facebook.
  - ThomPete 8y ago
    But you havent explained the crime yet.

username223 8y ago

> So use an ad blocker. It's about thirty seconds to set up, and very user-friendly. Even with the default lists, they do a great job. Have you ever tried to set up ad/tracker blocking for a non-tech person? If it actually protects their privacy, then it's also a huge pain in the ass that randomly breaks things and requires constant attention. DNS- or IP-level blocking works best, but requires constant maintenance. Then there are the various caches. What breaks when you block "*.googleapis.com"? Then there's the question of which user-hostile JavaScript APIs you try to block. WebGL? WebUSB? And from whom? It's endless war.