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It seems "Africa’s largest e-commerce company" is not African at all. It always pains me to see this when I visit small countries. Jobs are one thing, but if sm

It seems "Africa’s largest e-commerce company" is not African at all. It always pains me to see this when I visit small countries. Jobs are one thing, but if small countries find that massive resources are leaving the country in the name of those jobs then what's the point - it can be considered some form of trade at best and in the worst case colonization.

arcticbull 7y ago
It's hard to say that this is problematic. Canada's largest chain of coffee shops (Tim Hortons) is owned by a Brazilian company -- is that colonization? Saks Fifth Avenue, on the other hand, is Canadian -- is that? The Mandarin Oriental is owned by Jardine Maethson, headquartered in Hong Kong, but incorporated in Bermuda, with a long history trading opium in the South China Sea area -- is that exploitation today? That's just three random examples. Foreign investment allows companies to grow and succeed. I think there's sensitivity in this area due to past history though I don't think it's fair in this case. Owning a foreign company isn't 'exploitative.'
- externalreality 7y ago
  > Canada's largest chain of coffee shops (Tim Hortons) is owned by a Brazilian company. You are comparing apples and oranges. In many cases larger countries are able to conduct fair trade agreements. In the case of smaller countries they usually don't have the resources (military/political influence) to enact fair agreements and are "ripped off" by companies offering jobs.
  - iguy 7y ago
    But Brazil is larger than Canada by most measures. It has a larger population, and a higher GDP, and is 85% of the land area (but 0% frozen).
- robocat 7y ago
  Are the large majority of major companies in Africa African? The issue isn't about a few foreign companies. Is the majority of Canadian market cap foreign?
- amolo 7y ago
  They do not claim to be a Canadian company for PR and media attention. Thats the difference. Secondly, Jumia really exploits Africans to make a quick buck, they sell purely Chinese grade C goods all this is not benefiting Africans. This is modern day cannibalization. (and they still aren't profitable).
  - Canadauni 7y ago
    Are you saying that Tim Horton's doesn't claim to be Canadian for PR and media attention? Because that is basically the core of their marketing, to be synonymous with Canadian culture.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    This is modern day eating other people? Yes Tim Hortons absolutely does.
charlesdm 7y ago
They have a German holding company. The shareholders could move it to Luxembourg tomorrow if they wanted, or Belgium / Cyprus / Malta / Singapore / Dubai / etc. This doesn't really matter, because holding companies are in their simplest form empty shells that merely hold shares of other operating entities. They group equity participations. You want a holding company to be based in a country with an established and stable legal system, of which the African continent has exactly none. Jumia is for all intents and purposes, an Africa focused group.

arcticbull 7y ago

It's hard to say that this is problematic. Canada's largest chain of coffee shops (Tim Hortons) is owned by a Brazilian company -- is that colonization? Saks Fifth Avenue, on the other hand, is Canadian -- is that? The Mandarin Oriental is owned by Jardine Maethson, headquartered in Hong Kong, but incorporated in Bermuda, with a long history trading opium in the South China Sea area -- is that exploitation today? That's just three random examples. Foreign investment allows companies to grow and succeed. I think there's sensitivity in this area due to past history though I don't think it's fair in this case. Owning a foreign company isn't 'exploitative.'

externalreality 7y ago
> Canada's largest chain of coffee shops (Tim Hortons) is owned by a Brazilian company. You are comparing apples and oranges. In many cases larger countries are able to conduct fair trade agreements. In the case of smaller countries they usually don't have the resources (military/political influence) to enact fair agreements and are "ripped off" by companies offering jobs.
- iguy 7y ago
  But Brazil is larger than Canada by most measures. It has a larger population, and a higher GDP, and is 85% of the land area (but 0% frozen).
robocat 7y ago
Are the large majority of major companies in Africa African? The issue isn't about a few foreign companies. Is the majority of Canadian market cap foreign?
amolo 7y ago
They do not claim to be a Canadian company for PR and media attention. Thats the difference. Secondly, Jumia really exploits Africans to make a quick buck, they sell purely Chinese grade C goods all this is not benefiting Africans. This is modern day cannibalization. (and they still aren't profitable).
- Canadauni 7y ago
  Are you saying that Tim Horton's doesn't claim to be Canadian for PR and media attention? Because that is basically the core of their marketing, to be synonymous with Canadian culture.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  This is modern day eating other people? Yes Tim Hortons absolutely does.

charlesdm 7y ago

They have a German holding company. The shareholders could move it to Luxembourg tomorrow if they wanted, or Belgium / Cyprus / Malta / Singapore / Dubai / etc. This doesn't really matter, because holding companies are in their simplest form empty shells that merely hold shares of other operating entities. They group equity participations. You want a holding company to be based in a country with an established and stable legal system, of which the African continent has exactly none. Jumia is for all intents and purposes, an Africa focused group.