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Agree. The ULEZ is an utter joke. My car is over fifteen years old. It's ULEZ compliant. I can drive it in to Central London for free after 6pm and at weekends
by esotericn 8y ago
Agree. The ULEZ is an utter joke.
My car is over fifteen years old. It's ULEZ compliant. I can drive it in to Central London for free after 6pm and at weekends, because it's not diesel.
I don't do it often. I'd be supportive of a serious penalty (50+ quid say).
When it's extended to the North and South Circular roads in a few years time; the car will at that point be almost 20 years old, and if it's still going, permitted for free.
Oh - but I don't live there! I live further out, so actually none of this would affect me in any case, despite local roads still breaching pollution limits.
I wouldn't go quite as far as a blanket ban; I think charges are reasonable (basically to make petrol cars cost about as much as leasing an EV, say, but not forcing up-front massive expenditure). But at the moment we seem to be in this bizarre land in which the only changes that happen are those which don't feasibly affect anyone.
Suggesting that someone who can't afford to buy a new car probably shouldn't be driving around London is seen as political suicide.
- Brakenshire 8y agoThat’s because a 15 year old petrol car (Euro 4) is almost always better than even a 3 year old diesel car (Euro 6): https://mobile.twitter.com/apbandiv/status/1006238872966066176 https://mobile.twitter.com/apbandiv/status/10062388729660661... And 15 year old diesels are terrible. Banning dieselgate-era diesels is overwhelmingly the most important policy. Only RDE (Real Driving Emissions) diesels are ok, and under EU rules RDE has only come in during the last year or two, and even now is quite lax. Diesels will only be fully required to fully meet the pollution standards under real world driving conditions within a year or two, and only then will be roughly equivalent to petrols built from 2004 onwards.