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> No-one has claimed that Assange provided Manning with any assistance compromising any computer systems. The US government has claimed exactly this in its ind

> No-one has claimed that Assange provided Manning with any assistance compromising any computer systems. The US government has claimed exactly this in its indictment of Assange: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481... It's fascinating to me how you can accuse someone of "spreading FUD" without having read the (short) indictment. In my opinion this is complicated stuff. I think people have not only a right but a moral obligation to leak in order to expose crimes. But it isn't clear that this was Assange's goal. Instead, Assange does a lot of moral posturing and seems mostly driven by ego: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n05/andrew-ohagan/ghosting https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n05/andrew-ohagan/ghosting. I would be much more sympathetic had Assange or wikileaks provided leaks in a different manner. But they didn't. They released everything, unredacted, without commentary or contextualization which is why the previous poster's restatement of Assange's infantile position is basically accurate: > So do you really want to live in a world where the governing maxim is that information wants to be free, and that justifies any and all means of getting to it, including breaking into secure information systems?

jamiek88 8y ago
They also seem to be partisan or at least became that way. A tool of nation states in the end.
- bsamuels 8y ago
  This entire Assage debacle has been nothing but partisan shit flinging by people who read headlines then refine their opinion using the comments section instead of actually reading the articles/indictment and forming an opinion for themselves. Nowadays when someone "reads" an article, they just skip to the comment section and unwittingly chose the highest voted memetic comment and adapt its opinion as their own, regardless of the facts laid by the article itself. Sometimes those people go so far as to write their own articles that spread the questionable memetic idea, which is exactly what the OP's article is. The truth is that Julian Assange is being indited for attempting to break into US gov computer systems. If there was no evidence he had done so, there would not be charges pressed. Nothing about this is a free speech matter.

jamiek88 8y ago

They also seem to be partisan or at least became that way. A tool of nation states in the end.

bsamuels 8y ago
This entire Assage debacle has been nothing but partisan shit flinging by people who read headlines then refine their opinion using the comments section instead of actually reading the articles/indictment and forming an opinion for themselves. Nowadays when someone "reads" an article, they just skip to the comment section and unwittingly chose the highest voted memetic comment and adapt its opinion as their own, regardless of the facts laid by the article itself. Sometimes those people go so far as to write their own articles that spread the questionable memetic idea, which is exactly what the OP's article is. The truth is that Julian Assange is being indited for attempting to break into US gov computer systems. If there was no evidence he had done so, there would not be charges pressed. Nothing about this is a free speech matter.