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I work for an airline. I known about constraints. If I knew only one language, I never would be at the level I am. Here is the tech stack I deal with daily.

I work for an airline. I known about constraints. If I knew only one language, I never would be at the level I am. Here is the tech stack I deal with daily. VB6 Kix scripts Powershell .net 3.5 Winforms WPF .net 4+ .net core .net asp Java JavaScript React Angular C++ Golang. If programming is a job and not your craft, it will be harder for you. You just have to practice more.

ryanthedev 8y ago
I had to use a jar in a .net program. Do you know how much of a pain in the ass that was?
- ozim 8y ago
  That is very nasty joke sir.
  - UlisesAC4 8y ago
    Sometimes our daily job tasks are nastier jokes than we would like to admit.
- skrebbel 8y ago
  Is IKVM not a thing anymore these days?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Not really, and last time I checked there were no plans to ever migrate it to core.
    - skrebbel 8y ago
      Woa, bummer! That stuff was amazing. It opened up the entire Java ecosystem to .net apps, in an impressively seamless way.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Here, the project end announcement. http://weblog.ikvm.net/ http://weblog.ikvm.net/
blub 8y ago
> VB6 Kix scripts Powershell .net 3.5 Winforms WPF .net 4+ .net core .net asp Java JavaScript React Angular C++ Golang That just sounds like some mess that one is forced to deal with, not reasonable software engineering. I mean yes, some jobs will drown one in useless stuff. Doesn't mean that learning the useless stuff is a virtue now.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  It looks perfectly reasonable to me. VB6, KiX, Powershell and .NET suggest some part of the overall system is done through Windows desktop apps and Windows computers automation. JS, React and Angular imply that at least two frontends are involved (or possibly one under rewrite). Java, C++ and Golang are probably used for other parts. It's only small and well-defined software that can get away in being written in one technology. For anything larger/serious, you're bound to end up in a polyglot environment.
  - blub 7y ago
    KiX is funny, had to look that one up, and it wasn't easy to find: it's apparently some closed source "careware" batch scripting language developed by an MS employee. Yes, most environments use several programming languages. Done right, this can be Google's blessed languages approach. Done wrong, it can be every technology Microsoft ever brought into existence, ending up with a triplicate solution for each problem.
- dahart 7y ago
  What, exactly, makes you think any of that stack is useless or unreasonable? Do you know what all the pieces do? I don’t have a clue from a single comment, but I have enough experience to know that all stacks came from a series of reasonable decisions, and more importantly, specific problems to solve. So, TBH, my gut reaction to your comment is you might lack experience developing & shipping any large applications. That’s not an insult, and not a judgement; experience comes with time. Plus I don’t know your experience, I’m just letting you know what your comment leads me to assume. My only suggestion is to be a bit careful throwing around judgmental words like mess and useless and ‘not reasonable’ when you don’t know precisely what you’re talking about. FWIW, this stack looks very normal even for a web-only application, and it looks simpler to me than the stacks & tech people use for shipping console games. Hell, I’ve written personal projects with tech stacks that have as many pieces. If I’m off the mark about your experience level, you could make your case stronger by demonstrating that there’s a simpler cleaner alternative that solves the same problems, provides the same or better performance, build utility, maintainability, deployment, user experience, etc.. Do you have any suggestions?

ryanthedev 8y ago

I had to use a jar in a .net program. Do you know how much of a pain in the ass that was?

ozim 8y ago
That is very nasty joke sir.
- UlisesAC4 8y ago
  Sometimes our daily job tasks are nastier jokes than we would like to admit.
skrebbel 8y ago
Is IKVM not a thing anymore these days?
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Not really, and last time I checked there were no plans to ever migrate it to core.
  - skrebbel 8y ago
    Woa, bummer! That stuff was amazing. It opened up the entire Java ecosystem to .net apps, in an impressively seamless way.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Here, the project end announcement. http://weblog.ikvm.net/ http://weblog.ikvm.net/

blub 8y ago

> VB6 Kix scripts Powershell .net 3.5 Winforms WPF .net 4+ .net core .net asp Java JavaScript React Angular C++ Golang That just sounds like some mess that one is forced to deal with, not reasonable software engineering. I mean yes, some jobs will drown one in useless stuff. Doesn't mean that learning the useless stuff is a virtue now.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
It looks perfectly reasonable to me. VB6, KiX, Powershell and .NET suggest some part of the overall system is done through Windows desktop apps and Windows computers automation. JS, React and Angular imply that at least two frontends are involved (or possibly one under rewrite). Java, C++ and Golang are probably used for other parts. It's only small and well-defined software that can get away in being written in one technology. For anything larger/serious, you're bound to end up in a polyglot environment.
- blub 7y ago
  KiX is funny, had to look that one up, and it wasn't easy to find: it's apparently some closed source "careware" batch scripting language developed by an MS employee. Yes, most environments use several programming languages. Done right, this can be Google's blessed languages approach. Done wrong, it can be every technology Microsoft ever brought into existence, ending up with a triplicate solution for each problem.
dahart 7y ago
What, exactly, makes you think any of that stack is useless or unreasonable? Do you know what all the pieces do? I don’t have a clue from a single comment, but I have enough experience to know that all stacks came from a series of reasonable decisions, and more importantly, specific problems to solve. So, TBH, my gut reaction to your comment is you might lack experience developing & shipping any large applications. That’s not an insult, and not a judgement; experience comes with time. Plus I don’t know your experience, I’m just letting you know what your comment leads me to assume. My only suggestion is to be a bit careful throwing around judgmental words like mess and useless and ‘not reasonable’ when you don’t know precisely what you’re talking about. FWIW, this stack looks very normal even for a web-only application, and it looks simpler to me than the stacks & tech people use for shipping console games. Hell, I’ve written personal projects with tech stacks that have as many pieces. If I’m off the mark about your experience level, you could make your case stronger by demonstrating that there’s a simpler cleaner alternative that solves the same problems, provides the same or better performance, build utility, maintainability, deployment, user experience, etc.. Do you have any suggestions?