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It's super weird how everybody considered Trump odd for his hate for China, yet these days so many people just repeat the, usually completely baseless, anti-Chi

It's super weird how everybody considered Trump odd for his hate for China, yet these days so many people just repeat the, usually completely baseless, anti-China FUD. Whether it's Huawei supposedly spying on everybody or the Chinese government putting implants on Super Micro boards, nothing is too absurd to be spread by, out of all parties, Five eyes themselves. Does China hack? Of course, so does the US, it even steals IP from allies. But I seriously doubt the damages for that go into the $57 billion, that's just a piracy-damages like inflated number. In reality, a whole lot of interesting innovation, particularly on the hardware level, has already been happening in China for years already. They gonna out-make the US maker movement, on a massive scale [0]. [0] https://youtu.be/SGJ5cZnoodY https://youtu.be/SGJ5cZnoodY

whenchamenia 8y ago
There is plenty of truth to much of the china situation, not just FUD. While the Potus has bounced between 'i love china' and 'we need to do something about these people', the rampant IP theft negatively affects nearly everyone on HN.
- freeflight 8y ago
  > There is plenty of truth to much of the china situation, not just FUD. Yet FUD is all we get and people eat it up like the best thing ever. Even here on HN barely anybody questioned the Super Micro narrative, even tho that Bloomberg story was super sketchy from the very beginning by not disclosing who did that audit, just like their inability to produce a sample of the chip. Trump also never "bounced" on China, China is pretty much the only thing he doesn't bounce on, it's been his one constant since the election [0] and just because he throws an "I love China" in there, does not reflect or change any of his policy decisions. This is much more "I love my enemies because they are so stupid" posturing [1] than an declaration of actual sympathies. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-attacked-china-trade-relations-us/story?id=46572567 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-attacked-chin...
chillacy 8y ago
Did we forget that he basically soured the relationship with a trade war of escalating tarifs? If you punch someone in the face and they punch back and then say “see I told you”... I guess you are a prophet.

whenchamenia 8y ago

There is plenty of truth to much of the china situation, not just FUD. While the Potus has bounced between 'i love china' and 'we need to do something about these people', the rampant IP theft negatively affects nearly everyone on HN.

freeflight 8y ago
> There is plenty of truth to much of the china situation, not just FUD. Yet FUD is all we get and people eat it up like the best thing ever. Even here on HN barely anybody questioned the Super Micro narrative, even tho that Bloomberg story was super sketchy from the very beginning by not disclosing who did that audit, just like their inability to produce a sample of the chip. Trump also never "bounced" on China, China is pretty much the only thing he doesn't bounce on, it's been his one constant since the election [0] and just because he throws an "I love China" in there, does not reflect or change any of his policy decisions. This is much more "I love my enemies because they are so stupid" posturing [1] than an declaration of actual sympathies. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-attacked-china-trade-relations-us/story?id=46572567 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-trump-attacked-chin...

chillacy 8y ago

Did we forget that he basically soured the relationship with a trade war of escalating tarifs? If you punch someone in the face and they punch back and then say “see I told you”... I guess you are a prophet.