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The touchscreen is not the part I’m expecting to become obsolete (?). Many of the devices in cars currently have bugs, poor interface, slow performance, and ar

The touchscreen is not the part I’m expecting to become obsolete (?). Many of the devices in cars currently have bugs, poor interface, slow performance, and are generally inferior to modern phones. So, continuing to perform as they do now is not a relief. It’s like having a phone from 2014 built into ... uh, your car. I’ve upgraded my real phones and tablets 3-4 times since then, despite that the old ones still functioned same as they did when new. One example is that it’s difficult to pair iPhones with some cars from a few years ago. What happens when software updates make me unable to connect to the Bluetooth in my car? I doubt that Ford or GM is going to release a timely update. You might ask: why do people upgrade computing devices that still function?

PorterDuff 7y ago
I think I agree with you. They're starting to put cars on the same obsolescence train as consumer electronics. This is on a device that costs a helluva lot more. I suppose that EVs have the same issue. The parts situation is going to be interesting. Lacking standardized design and only a limited number of years of guaranteed (and high cost) replacements, it should be interesting in a decade. Cars a tough environment and I'm afraid that wrecking yards will see a lot of usage in terms of both cars become obsolete/unfixable and as sources of spare parts. It's interesting that the original sin of pushing towards this situation is the mandatory backup camera. Once the screen and a tolerably fast embedded system get installed, cost reduction leads you to a monolithic place for car controls. The modern fascination with cell phones probably helps the population go along.
- code_duck 7y ago
  Right, what I’m trying to say is that the obsolescence schedule of tablets and the rate of development does not match hardware like cars refrigerators well. Large physical items like that with other primary purposes should last a decade or two, at least. I would think the best solution for this is to have swappable, upgradable tablets. Maybe basic operations built in, and a dock for a tablet that you could change whenever. For any of this to function well, the manufacturers either have to work closely with competent consumer software companies, or become one themselves. It reminds me of the situation where cell phone carriers are expected to update the ROM on your old android phone, and often don’t do so regularly, because they’re not competent software or hardware companies.

PorterDuff 7y ago

I think I agree with you. They're starting to put cars on the same obsolescence train as consumer electronics. This is on a device that costs a helluva lot more. I suppose that EVs have the same issue. The parts situation is going to be interesting. Lacking standardized design and only a limited number of years of guaranteed (and high cost) replacements, it should be interesting in a decade. Cars a tough environment and I'm afraid that wrecking yards will see a lot of usage in terms of both cars become obsolete/unfixable and as sources of spare parts. It's interesting that the original sin of pushing towards this situation is the mandatory backup camera. Once the screen and a tolerably fast embedded system get installed, cost reduction leads you to a monolithic place for car controls. The modern fascination with cell phones probably helps the population go along.

code_duck 7y ago
Right, what I’m trying to say is that the obsolescence schedule of tablets and the rate of development does not match hardware like cars refrigerators well. Large physical items like that with other primary purposes should last a decade or two, at least. I would think the best solution for this is to have swappable, upgradable tablets. Maybe basic operations built in, and a dock for a tablet that you could change whenever. For any of this to function well, the manufacturers either have to work closely with competent consumer software companies, or become one themselves. It reminds me of the situation where cell phone carriers are expected to update the ROM on your old android phone, and often don’t do so regularly, because they’re not competent software or hardware companies.