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So, sounds ... foreign, and probably not government sponsored. Are there any US free agents hunting Chinese, Russian, Israeli, French, etc hackers?

black_puppydog 8y ago
Foreign? Why? I didn't see any indication of that in the article, beyond what could be regular typos. And it's not like the US doesn't have its own fair share of disgruntled and/or greedy people capable of something like this.
- djhaskin987 8y ago
  No one says "over a million data" in English, though it is arguably grammatically correct. Together with the typos it strongly suggests a foreign speaker.
  - deleted 8y ago
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- caprese 8y ago
  > I didn't see any indication of that in the article, beyond what could be regular typos part of standard OPSEC is to run your typing through an anonimyzer tool. Hm thats not the colloquial names of those tools Basically something to reduce the fingerprinting of how you write. Often times it makes you seem to have bad grammar, but some of the tools can intentionally give you the profile of a Russian person that learned English as a second language. gives you an easy scapegoat to get away with the hacking, and gives the investigators an easy scapegoat to mask their incompetence
aasasd 8y ago
> The hacker claimed to have “over a million data” [sic] ‘Data’ = plural of ‘datum’ according to the weird native-English tradition where people import entire grammar rules unchanged from other languages, long dead ones at that. So, the hackers used the word properly for the region, while Techcrunch was confused by this! Glorious mess.
- toyg 8y ago
  Long dead? Tsk, Latin is in ur courtrooms, making ur laws... de jure ac de facto.
  - JetSpiegel 8y ago
    Alea jacta est
    - saganus 8y ago
      An Asterix and Obelix fan? :D
  - reshie 8y ago
    not to mention scientific names for things. some named ages past but the tradition continues. i think i know what he/she means though
- thomasfedb 8y ago
  The problem in the usage is that most native speakers use 'data' not as a plural, but instead to identify the continuous stream that is comprised of datum, and therefore as an uncountable.
  - aasasd 8y ago
    Of course they do, as they should. Still too often there are annoying shits around waiting to dump the “it's ‘these data’, not ‘this’.” Have I mentioned that using plural forms from a different language is arbitrary and stupid? All widely-used languages borrow words from others, but they bend the words to their grammar, not the other way around.
    - qlm 8y ago
      Treating "data" as plural very often seems like education flexing. There is no need to say "these data"/"this datum" in a normal conversation other than showing off the number of papers you have written or read.
rolph 8y ago
Yes. but they are officially not agents they are contractors, usually "retired" from an agency.

black_puppydog 8y ago

Foreign? Why? I didn't see any indication of that in the article, beyond what could be regular typos. And it's not like the US doesn't have its own fair share of disgruntled and/or greedy people capable of something like this.

djhaskin987 8y ago
No one says "over a million data" in English, though it is arguably grammatically correct. Together with the typos it strongly suggests a foreign speaker.
- deleted 8y ago
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caprese 8y ago
> I didn't see any indication of that in the article, beyond what could be regular typos part of standard OPSEC is to run your typing through an anonimyzer tool. Hm thats not the colloquial names of those tools Basically something to reduce the fingerprinting of how you write. Often times it makes you seem to have bad grammar, but some of the tools can intentionally give you the profile of a Russian person that learned English as a second language. gives you an easy scapegoat to get away with the hacking, and gives the investigators an easy scapegoat to mask their incompetence

aasasd 8y ago

> The hacker claimed to have “over a million data” [sic] ‘Data’ = plural of ‘datum’ according to the weird native-English tradition where people import entire grammar rules unchanged from other languages, long dead ones at that. So, the hackers used the word properly for the region, while Techcrunch was confused by this! Glorious mess.

toyg 8y ago
Long dead? Tsk, Latin is in ur courtrooms, making ur laws... de jure ac de facto.
- JetSpiegel 8y ago
  Alea jacta est
  - saganus 8y ago
    An Asterix and Obelix fan? :D
- reshie 8y ago
  not to mention scientific names for things. some named ages past but the tradition continues. i think i know what he/she means though
thomasfedb 8y ago
The problem in the usage is that most native speakers use 'data' not as a plural, but instead to identify the continuous stream that is comprised of datum, and therefore as an uncountable.
- aasasd 8y ago
  Of course they do, as they should. Still too often there are annoying shits around waiting to dump the “it's ‘these data’, not ‘this’.” Have I mentioned that using plural forms from a different language is arbitrary and stupid? All widely-used languages borrow words from others, but they bend the words to their grammar, not the other way around.
  - qlm 8y ago
    Treating "data" as plural very often seems like education flexing. There is no need to say "these data"/"this datum" in a normal conversation other than showing off the number of papers you have written or read.

rolph 8y ago

Yes. but they are officially not agents they are contractors, usually "retired" from an agency.