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It's always the same debate, on my case all the features of Webstorm he's listing I will likely never use them whereas the lag issues & the clutter interface of

It's always the same debate, on my case all the features of Webstorm he's listing I will likely never use them whereas the lag issues & the clutter interface of Webstorm just make it a no-start as my main editor.

foepys 8y ago
How's it cluttered? You can simply hide everything. besides that, the default configuration only shows the main editor and two tool panels (left and bottom), the same as VS Code.
- realusername 8y ago
  You got the answer in your comment, "you hide everything", yes but by default there's a good 80% of buttons I will never use including the top bar and a good part of the side bar. The menus themselves are also too cluttered, it "feels Java" to me and that's not a compliment.
fredsted 8y ago
> lag issues & the clutter interface of Webstorm I know a few developers who stick to editors like VSCode for those kind of reasons, but as it turns out, they actually never spent time learning how WebStorm works. WebStorm and the rest of the JetBrains family of IDEs are extremely configurable, and speed is not an issue in my opinion: I've spent a lot of time programming with PHPStorm (including database servers and Web servers running in the background) with a 1.1ghz 12" MacBook. In addition, it comes with batteries included. No need for plugins for what should be standard functionality. Looking at them work, they could save so much time refactoring, jumping between code, clicking instead of using shortcuts, etc. that the investment would be paid back within at most a week.
- realusername 8y ago
  > WebStorm and the rest of the JetBrains family of IDEs are extremely configurable, and speed is not an issue in my opinion Speed is totally an issue for me with Webstorm, there's a small typing lag, very small yeah but noticeable, no typing lag is my top priority in an editor, above all the other features. > Looking at them work, they could save so much time refactoring, jumping between code, clicking instead of using shortcuts, etc. that the investment would be paid back within at most a week. Every Webstorm user talks about refactoring like a major feature for them but I found it not that useful personally, that's not a feature I would use anyway.
  - arcturus17 8y ago
    Well let's just agree that one's mileage might vary on this, because I use both VSCode and IDEA, and whereas neither really has input lag on my machine, typing in IDEA somehow feels smoother thanks to some interface programming trick that I can't put my finger on.
kmlx 8y ago
you mention speed. then you’ll be happy to find out that sublime text is much faster than vs code. on my mac even my intellij idea ultimate is faster than vs code. from my experience, vs code is the slowest editor you could possibly use, slower than a full blown ide, slower than a text editor. it’s just a slow piece of software.
- realusername 8y ago
  Yes indeed I know, I hesitate to go back to Sublime because of that, VSCode is still pretty slow and the RAM usage isn't great.
- cheerlessbog 8y ago
  Have you tried Atom?

foepys 8y ago

How's it cluttered? You can simply hide everything. besides that, the default configuration only shows the main editor and two tool panels (left and bottom), the same as VS Code.

realusername 8y ago
You got the answer in your comment, "you hide everything", yes but by default there's a good 80% of buttons I will never use including the top bar and a good part of the side bar. The menus themselves are also too cluttered, it "feels Java" to me and that's not a compliment.

fredsted 8y ago

> lag issues & the clutter interface of Webstorm I know a few developers who stick to editors like VSCode for those kind of reasons, but as it turns out, they actually never spent time learning how WebStorm works. WebStorm and the rest of the JetBrains family of IDEs are extremely configurable, and speed is not an issue in my opinion: I've spent a lot of time programming with PHPStorm (including database servers and Web servers running in the background) with a 1.1ghz 12" MacBook. In addition, it comes with batteries included. No need for plugins for what should be standard functionality. Looking at them work, they could save so much time refactoring, jumping between code, clicking instead of using shortcuts, etc. that the investment would be paid back within at most a week.

realusername 8y ago
> WebStorm and the rest of the JetBrains family of IDEs are extremely configurable, and speed is not an issue in my opinion Speed is totally an issue for me with Webstorm, there's a small typing lag, very small yeah but noticeable, no typing lag is my top priority in an editor, above all the other features. > Looking at them work, they could save so much time refactoring, jumping between code, clicking instead of using shortcuts, etc. that the investment would be paid back within at most a week. Every Webstorm user talks about refactoring like a major feature for them but I found it not that useful personally, that's not a feature I would use anyway.
- arcturus17 8y ago
  Well let's just agree that one's mileage might vary on this, because I use both VSCode and IDEA, and whereas neither really has input lag on my machine, typing in IDEA somehow feels smoother thanks to some interface programming trick that I can't put my finger on.

kmlx 8y ago

you mention speed. then you’ll be happy to find out that sublime text is much faster than vs code. on my mac even my intellij idea ultimate is faster than vs code. from my experience, vs code is the slowest editor you could possibly use, slower than a full blown ide, slower than a text editor. it’s just a slow piece of software.

realusername 8y ago
Yes indeed I know, I hesitate to go back to Sublime because of that, VSCode is still pretty slow and the RAM usage isn't great.
cheerlessbog 8y ago
Have you tried Atom?