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At least PHP doesn't have the whole Python 2 vs. Python 3 fiasco. And a gazillion different ways to package and install dependencies. Don't get me wrong, I love
by fletchowns 8y ago
At least PHP doesn't have the whole Python 2 vs. Python 3 fiasco. And a gazillion different ways to package and install dependencies. Don't get me wrong, I love Python but every language has its warts.
- code_duck 8y agoTrue, PHP never made a clean break with its legacy, unlike Python. That’s not positive.
- Can_Not 8y agoPHP consistently deprecates old features at a steady, manageable pace while introducing new features and performance enhancements.
- reallydude 8y ago> PHP consistently deprecates old features at a steady, manageable pace Manageable is subjective. There's no evidence that it's "just right" or even "timely". Major API cleanup would be appropriate for php 8 but there's still too many people clinging to the idea that PHP would be damaged because someone can't look up how to solve PHP problems with specific versions (ie are stuck in the late 90s). There's so much that could be done in one fell swoop, the steering council of neckbeards (PHP neckbeards are as bad as it sounds) are responsible for the stunted development of the language. To suggest they are the progressive face of PHP is, at best, revisionist.
- Can_Not 8y agoSteady might mean too slow, but there's no 2/3 schism. There's plenty of features in the docs that say at the top "deprecated in x, removed in y, see also alternative z", so I'm unsure of what problem you're referring to.
- fetbaffe 8y agoWhat would a major API cleanup actually give except for major breakage?
- zwetan 8y agoHow about PHP 6? not a fiasco?
- Can_Not 8y agoThey canceled a major break in BC that they weren't sure would have been a good idea and then came out with one of the best releases in PHP history, so kind of the opposite of a fiasco.