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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_... No, that still falls into fal
by dymk 8y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#Non-fallacious_...
No, that still falls into fallacious usage.
The user doesn't justify why the steps of their assertion follow after the other. Just that they... do.
- steve_taylor 8y agoNo one needs to justify the "why" when we're talking about a very well trodden slippery slope.
- dymk 8y agoFallacies don't just stop applying when it's convenient to elide justification.
- Sir_Substance 8y agoThat's true. However, we also don't collect history for the fun of it. Over the course of the last 20 years, we've seen that once a data collection and digital surveillance framework is put in place, the surveillance tends to expand. Slippery slope arguments, sans good reasoning, tend to be fallacies. However, don't fall into the trap of thinking that an argument backed by historical record is a slippery slope just because it's predicting an outcome. We might call that the "history is all slippery slopes" fallacy. Stating "this has happened before multiple times before, and each time has lead to x" is a very different argument to stating "this has happened, so the logical extrapolation is x".
- justatdotin 8y agoif it can be that well trodden, is it really still a slippery slope?
- mixmastamyk 8y agoOverwhelming empirical data across history.
- johncolanduoni 8y agoThat’s proof of existence of slippery slopes, not of prevelance of hypothetical slippery slopes being realized.
- mixmastamyk 8y agoWe’re talking about data collection and usage, not possibilities in the universe.
- johncolanduoni 8y agoExactly, which is why I'd be more interested in concrete commonalities of slippery slopes that were actually realized, and not just a general "history has plenty of slippery slopes".
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