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The only way my three kids would sleep at night was in one of these. Probably acid reflux, but it’s a bummer these are getting recalled. I don’t really understa

The only way my three kids would sleep at night was in one of these. Probably acid reflux, but it’s a bummer these are getting recalled. I don’t really understand how a child could suffocate in a rock and play any more so than in a traditional crib.

Someone1234 8y ago
Parents were using them without the straps when the child could roll. So the child would roll over, and lay face down with high walls, likely resulting in a perfect SIDS environment.
mbrd 8y ago
Same here, it was the only way we could get my daughter (now 3 years old) to go to sleep. I spent many a long evening lying on the floor (so she couldn't see me over the edge), rocking it with my foot. Ours had mesh sides which I think would allow breathing even if the baby managed to roll, so I'm not 100% what the dangerous scenario that triggered the recall could be.
- cullenking 8y ago
  Same thing, three years old now, used on of these for the first three months. I'd sleep on the couch with him next to me and rock it while I dozed all night, to give the wife some rest. All my parent friends had good sleepers so I've felt like an outlier, nice to hear a similar story.
shereadsthenews 8y ago
People also put their kids in cars and drive them around to put them to sleep, and hundreds of children are killed every year in car wrecks but nobody is recalling the cars.
- sanderjd 8y ago
  You shouldn't be getting downvoted. This is a good point. Not that cars should actually be recalled because of this, but that there are risks on all sides that parents are constantly weighing and navigating. I suspect it is truly less safe for parents to be critically sleep deprived than for a baby to sleep in one of these. Especially in the first couple months when you're driving to the doctor all the time. Are there statistics on car accidents including infants due to sleep deprivation? Or even just injuries due to dropping babies when sleep deprived? I suspect it would be hard to gather these because parents don't like to acknowledge (even to themselves) how much the sleep deprivation is affecting them.
  - asark 8y ago
    > Are there statistics on car accidents including infants due to sleep deprivation? Or even just injuries due to dropping babies when sleep deprived? Hell, murder-suicides while sleep deprived.
    - shereadsthenews 8y ago
      I burst out laughing but this is a sad reality. People really do lose their minds when they can’t sleep. And we know from DST change days that sleep deprivation causes transport fatalities.
agotterer 8y ago
Both my kids had acid reflux. We put a few towels under the bassinet pad on one end to create an incline and it helped.
- asark 8y ago
  Two of ours ended up on (very mild) drugs for acid reflux, for a little while. Friggin' lifesaver, that stuff. With the first one we had to switch doctors to finally get one who'd listen to us (no, shrieking like they're on fire when you lay them down or hold them in the wrong position, and starting to drink from a bottle, then shrieking for a bit, then taking some more, then shrieking for a bit is not normal kid fussiness and we are not being oversensitive first-time parents, you asshole) so that one'd burned their throat quite raw by the time we got ahold of the medicine, but things got way better in a matter of days anyway. Knew what to look for with the other second one who had it, got it taken care of fast, and damn was that easier. Practically an instant fix, in that case, without all the weeks of accumulated damage. A++++ would reach for meds at the first sign of reflux again. Those few weeks without on the first one were... very bad. Very, very bad.
  - Someone1234 8y ago
    The drugs are magic. I will say ours still benefited from inclined sleeping even with the drugs. We used the Rock N' Play for several months then got a foam wedge that goes under an infant mattress (which frankly didn't work too well, they'd roll down the hill).
    - asark 8y ago
      Oh yeah, incline on the first one with the (temporarily) effed-up throat remained helpful for a while. We also ended up on some wicked-expensive prescription formula stuff with that one, for two or three months. God was that a lot of money. > We used the Rock N' Play for several months then got a foam wedge that goes under an infant mattress (which frankly didn't work too well, they'd roll down the hill). I'm having a really fun time imagining the scene when you realized it was doing this :-)
    - 8y ago
in_cahoots 8y ago
In addition to rolling over and suffocating, young babies with weak neck muscles died through positional asphyxia. Their heads tilted to one side and closed off the airways as they slept. It’s the same reason infants aren’t supposed to sleep in car seats outside of the car- the additional risk is worth it while driving, but not while stationary.
- nikofeyn 8y ago
  are neck braces ever used then?
  - in_cahoots 8y ago
    I’ve never seen one. The best workaround is the SNOO, a ‘smart’ bassinet that is flat, rocks the baby, and is certified as a safe sleep surface. Unfortunately it costs upward of a thousand dollars while the Rock N’ Play only costs $40.

Someone1234 8y ago

Parents were using them without the straps when the child could roll. So the child would roll over, and lay face down with high walls, likely resulting in a perfect SIDS environment.

mbrd 8y ago

Same here, it was the only way we could get my daughter (now 3 years old) to go to sleep. I spent many a long evening lying on the floor (so she couldn't see me over the edge), rocking it with my foot. Ours had mesh sides which I think would allow breathing even if the baby managed to roll, so I'm not 100% what the dangerous scenario that triggered the recall could be.

cullenking 8y ago
Same thing, three years old now, used on of these for the first three months. I'd sleep on the couch with him next to me and rock it while I dozed all night, to give the wife some rest. All my parent friends had good sleepers so I've felt like an outlier, nice to hear a similar story.

shereadsthenews 8y ago

People also put their kids in cars and drive them around to put them to sleep, and hundreds of children are killed every year in car wrecks but nobody is recalling the cars.

sanderjd 8y ago
You shouldn't be getting downvoted. This is a good point. Not that cars should actually be recalled because of this, but that there are risks on all sides that parents are constantly weighing and navigating. I suspect it is truly less safe for parents to be critically sleep deprived than for a baby to sleep in one of these. Especially in the first couple months when you're driving to the doctor all the time. Are there statistics on car accidents including infants due to sleep deprivation? Or even just injuries due to dropping babies when sleep deprived? I suspect it would be hard to gather these because parents don't like to acknowledge (even to themselves) how much the sleep deprivation is affecting them.
- asark 8y ago
  > Are there statistics on car accidents including infants due to sleep deprivation? Or even just injuries due to dropping babies when sleep deprived? Hell, murder-suicides while sleep deprived.
  - shereadsthenews 8y ago
    I burst out laughing but this is a sad reality. People really do lose their minds when they can’t sleep. And we know from DST change days that sleep deprivation causes transport fatalities.

agotterer 8y ago

Both my kids had acid reflux. We put a few towels under the bassinet pad on one end to create an incline and it helped.

asark 8y ago
Two of ours ended up on (very mild) drugs for acid reflux, for a little while. Friggin' lifesaver, that stuff. With the first one we had to switch doctors to finally get one who'd listen to us (no, shrieking like they're on fire when you lay them down or hold them in the wrong position, and starting to drink from a bottle, then shrieking for a bit, then taking some more, then shrieking for a bit is not normal kid fussiness and we are not being oversensitive first-time parents, you asshole) so that one'd burned their throat quite raw by the time we got ahold of the medicine, but things got way better in a matter of days anyway. Knew what to look for with the other second one who had it, got it taken care of fast, and damn was that easier. Practically an instant fix, in that case, without all the weeks of accumulated damage. A++++ would reach for meds at the first sign of reflux again. Those few weeks without on the first one were... very bad. Very, very bad.
- Someone1234 8y ago
  The drugs are magic. I will say ours still benefited from inclined sleeping even with the drugs. We used the Rock N' Play for several months then got a foam wedge that goes under an infant mattress (which frankly didn't work too well, they'd roll down the hill).
  - asark 8y ago
    Oh yeah, incline on the first one with the (temporarily) effed-up throat remained helpful for a while. We also ended up on some wicked-expensive prescription formula stuff with that one, for two or three months. God was that a lot of money. > We used the Rock N' Play for several months then got a foam wedge that goes under an infant mattress (which frankly didn't work too well, they'd roll down the hill). I'm having a really fun time imagining the scene when you realized it was doing this :-)
  - 8y ago

in_cahoots 8y ago

In addition to rolling over and suffocating, young babies with weak neck muscles died through positional asphyxia. Their heads tilted to one side and closed off the airways as they slept. It’s the same reason infants aren’t supposed to sleep in car seats outside of the car- the additional risk is worth it while driving, but not while stationary.

nikofeyn 8y ago
are neck braces ever used then?
- in_cahoots 8y ago
  I’ve never seen one. The best workaround is the SNOO, a ‘smart’ bassinet that is flat, rocks the baby, and is certified as a safe sleep surface. Unfortunately it costs upward of a thousand dollars while the Rock N’ Play only costs $40.