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Elon Musk affirms that Tesla will have full self-driving cars by end of year

23 points by giacaglia 8y ago

CharlesColeman 8y ago
At this point, I don't believe a word Musk says. Someone must have forgotten to tell him about "the boy who cried wolf" when he was a boy.
MAXPOOL 8y ago
Did he really make this claim? I didn't listen the podcast. If true, this sounds completely unrealistic especially with the way Tesla is approaching self-driving cars. It's possible that Musk will showcase something within year, but I'm certain will not be a full self-driving car in any meaningful sense. If there is betting market with well defined bet terms, I could bet some money on it.
qnsi 8y ago
He promised coast to coast in 2016
- agildehaus 8y ago
  He promised Falcon Heavy in 2013. Yet here we are, with Falcon Heavy doing every bit that was promised. Not to say that means much, but let people be optimistic and miss deadlines as long as they're truly working on it.
gamblor956 8y ago
If Musk actually made this claim, he can look forward to a massive shareholder lawsuit in 2020 if Tesla fails to deliver anything less than Level 5 self driving vehicles. As they have yet to achieve Level 3 driving (and arguably, even Level 2), he's basically looking down the barrel of a gun. It's going to be a horrible year for the employees unlucky enough to be working on "self driving" tech at Tesla. Look for a lot of employee departures over the year.
NicoJuicy 8y ago
Where can I have an online bet? I'm not kidding
- tuesdayrain 8y ago
  Buying TSLA calls or puts that expire at the end of the year seems like a good way to bet on this event, although my financial knowledge regarding options is limited.
  - NicoJuicy 8y ago
    Stock had more variables than just this bet.
WheelsAtLarge 8y ago
I call BS. There are just too many variables that have not been solved. The biggest variables are the random drivers that decide to do something stupid. Look at how hard it is to drive in a stormy or heavy snow day for humans. How will cars handle that? Also, people are going to want self-driving cars to be perfect never mind that most drivers are far less. So, just by pointing these few items out of many more that still need to be solved means that we are ways away from the goal. Musk needs to define the stages that will be possible over time and promise that rather than full self-driving by end of the year. He's defining reality by what he wishes will happen rather than what reality is.
gopher2 8y ago
Who cares? Musk is so full of shit.

23 points by giacaglia 8y ago

At this point, I don't believe a word Musk says. Someone must have forgotten to tell him about "the boy who cried wolf" when he was a boy.

MAXPOOL 8y ago

Did he really make this claim? I didn't listen the podcast. If true, this sounds completely unrealistic especially with the way Tesla is approaching self-driving cars. It's possible that Musk will showcase something within year, but I'm certain will not be a full self-driving car in any meaningful sense. If there is betting market with well defined bet terms, I could bet some money on it.

qnsi 8y ago

He promised coast to coast in 2016

agildehaus 8y ago
He promised Falcon Heavy in 2013. Yet here we are, with Falcon Heavy doing every bit that was promised. Not to say that means much, but let people be optimistic and miss deadlines as long as they're truly working on it.

gamblor956 8y ago

If Musk actually made this claim, he can look forward to a massive shareholder lawsuit in 2020 if Tesla fails to deliver anything less than Level 5 self driving vehicles. As they have yet to achieve Level 3 driving (and arguably, even Level 2), he's basically looking down the barrel of a gun. It's going to be a horrible year for the employees unlucky enough to be working on "self driving" tech at Tesla. Look for a lot of employee departures over the year.

NicoJuicy 8y ago

Where can I have an online bet? I'm not kidding

tuesdayrain 8y ago
Buying TSLA calls or puts that expire at the end of the year seems like a good way to bet on this event, although my financial knowledge regarding options is limited.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  Stock had more variables than just this bet.

WheelsAtLarge 8y ago

I call BS. There are just too many variables that have not been solved. The biggest variables are the random drivers that decide to do something stupid. Look at how hard it is to drive in a stormy or heavy snow day for humans. How will cars handle that? Also, people are going to want self-driving cars to be perfect never mind that most drivers are far less. So, just by pointing these few items out of many more that still need to be solved means that we are ways away from the goal. Musk needs to define the stages that will be possible over time and promise that rather than full self-driving by end of the year. He's defining reality by what he wishes will happen rather than what reality is.

gopher2 8y ago

Who cares? Musk is so full of shit.