> One other thing I've noticed is that here's also much less of a car culture. I think a big factor is the lack of freeways in downtown Madison (not sure if th

> One other thing I've noticed is that here's also much less of a car culture. I think a big factor is the lack of freeways in downtown Madison (not sure if this was intentional or a byproduct of the isthmus + Capitol Square). A lot of people attribute Vancouver's success with alternative transportation to a 1960's decision against urban freeways. Without the option of a freeway, incentives and cultural attitudes are more aligned toward biking, busing, etc.