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> But Chrome is not a beautiful app I guess it's totally subjective and therefore fairly meaningless, but I think Chrome is the most visually appealing of any

by zmmmmm 16y ago

> But Chrome is not a beautiful app I guess it's totally subjective and therefore fairly meaningless, but I think Chrome is the most visually appealing of any browser right now. This is partly, I guess, because its primary virtue is minimalism, but the parts that are there are beautiful, I think.

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drivebyacct2 16y ago
Couldn't agree more. The tabs and buttons fit perfectly into my operating system (http://i.imgur.com/DO5SQ.png http://i.imgur.com/DO5SQ.png reusing this image from a few threads back). I don't even use the "Use GTK+ Theme" option (though I do use system titlebar because it looks hot).
- allenp 16y ago
  What OS and theme/toolbar/etc is this? It looks great.
  - drivebyacct2 16y ago
    This is stock Ubuntu 10.10 Ambiance theme: Unstable Docky from PPA (The stable version is basically identical). Docky is pure butter. It is a few features down from AWN but it's MUCH more consistent (had problems with clicks registering in AWN in weird places) and is gorgeous. It really takes advantage of the SVG icons from Faenza. * ppa:docky-core/ppa The toolbar at the top is standard gnome-panel with Cardapio replacing the standard GNOME Main Menu. Cardapio is easily my favorite main menu of any OS. I have the ability to change the identifier for it, search the menu, see everything grouped nicely, AND resize the menu itself. Awesome stuff. * ppa:cardapio-team/unstable * screenshot of Cardapio: http://i.min.us/i9sRs.png http://i.min.us/i9sRs.png I'm using Faenza icons: * http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 * ppa:tiheum/equinox Note, there is a conflict caused by Faenza's author overwriting PNGs in /usr/share/dockmanager which is used by the Docky DEB. I used DPKG and --force-overwrite to get them to install properly. A bit of a pain when there are updates, but really it's only one command and it's well worth it. (The only other thing I could add is, I use dockbarx when I remote in because it doesn't require compositing where Docky does. When I do that, my setup looks like this: http://i.min.us/iErSa.png http://i.min.us/iErSa.png)
    - mgedmin 16y ago
      The deb conflict could be solved rather neatly by using dpkg diversions: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.ht...
    - peregrine 16y ago
      I would consider using dev chromium so you have the option to hide the system title bar and push the [x] [_] [[]] down inline with the tabs. Otherwise great links!
- andreyf 16y ago
  Gaaah, so many wasted vertical pixels! http://imgur.com/DwTik.png http://imgur.com/DwTik.png
PakG1 16y ago
The day that minimalism got equated with beauty was the day we realized we had too much clutter in our lives, so minimalism = beauty is simply a reactionary concept. Minimalism in of itself could not be considered beauty if you looked at what is considered beautiful art, architecture, clothing, etc, in general.
- Groxx 16y ago
  Take a course on art history. Especially global art history. This is not a new concept, new style, trend, focus, what-have-you, though it has gained new momentum. Edit: See: Suprematism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematism), De Stijl (though they liked bold colors) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Stijl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Stijl), arguably Bauhaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus), "International Style" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_style_(architecture) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_style_(architectu... ), all of which came before the increased business in art of the 40s-60s, which came before "Minimalism" proper in ~1965. And this is primarily in America & Europe - other areas have had their blends as well. All of which was pretty heavily influenced by the traditional Japanese aesthetic, which has a pretty strong focus on Minimalism-like attributes. Minimalism as a positive thing isn't just reactionary. It also serves to bring subtle details into focus, and to emphasize the craft (ie, crafter's experience / quality) as a whole rather than individual details.
humblest_ever 16y ago
I agree wholeheartedly, I've been using Chrome for a few months now and every time I have to open Firefox to do something it's a little painful.
Groxx 16y ago
There's a lot of subtlety in Chrome, too. For instance (in 9.0.597): * Mouse over a tab, and move your cursor back and forth. The whole tab is highlighted, but there's extra brightness around the cursor. * Similarly, look carefully at the buttons on the main bar, or at bookmarks, when mousing over. There's a subtle brightening over a fraction of a second, instead of an instant-on hover effect. Don't believe it? Compare it to mousing over the "+" new tab button, which is instantly highlighted to its full degree. * Tabs, when re-arranged, slide to their new positions instead of snapping. * URLs lose http:// http://, and everything after the first "/" is very slightly grayed instead of black. * Every corner is curved. Every dark edge is under-highlighted, so tabs seem to "float above" the rest of the UI. Those back / reload buttons seem to be recessed black icons instead of buttons - until you mouse over them. * "Active" chrome elements - active tab, browser + extensions, and bookmarks - have a light -> dark -> light transition through all of them. Inactive tabs are noticeably closer to a solid, darker gray, though they to have a slight gradient. It helps unify the active tab with the applicable chrome seamlessly. You'll also notice Firefox 4 has adopted similar visual cues for tabs. All of which adds more visual cues to what things do, and easier hierarchical organization at a glance, while maintaining extremely minimal clutter. There are also a couple things I dislike. Like how utterly massive the bookmarks-in-folders on the bookmarks bar are. Almost twice what other browsers have / via the menu. Glitches in Web Inspector. Excessively-useful hidden preferences. But overall, there's a frightening amount of polish in Chrome.

by zmmmmm 16y ago

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drivebyacct2 16y ago

Couldn't agree more. The tabs and buttons fit perfectly into my operating system (http://i.imgur.com/DO5SQ.png http://i.imgur.com/DO5SQ.png reusing this image from a few threads back). I don't even use the "Use GTK+ Theme" option (though I do use system titlebar because it looks hot).

allenp 16y ago
What OS and theme/toolbar/etc is this? It looks great.
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  This is stock Ubuntu 10.10 Ambiance theme: Unstable Docky from PPA (The stable version is basically identical). Docky is pure butter. It is a few features down from AWN but it's MUCH more consistent (had problems with clicks registering in AWN in weird places) and is gorgeous. It really takes advantage of the SVG icons from Faenza. * ppa:docky-core/ppa The toolbar at the top is standard gnome-panel with Cardapio replacing the standard GNOME Main Menu. Cardapio is easily my favorite main menu of any OS. I have the ability to change the identifier for it, search the menu, see everything grouped nicely, AND resize the menu itself. Awesome stuff. * ppa:cardapio-team/unstable * screenshot of Cardapio: http://i.min.us/i9sRs.png http://i.min.us/i9sRs.png I'm using Faenza icons: * http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228 * ppa:tiheum/equinox Note, there is a conflict caused by Faenza's author overwriting PNGs in /usr/share/dockmanager which is used by the Docky DEB. I used DPKG and --force-overwrite to get them to install properly. A bit of a pain when there are updates, but really it's only one command and it's well worth it. (The only other thing I could add is, I use dockbarx when I remote in because it doesn't require compositing where Docky does. When I do that, my setup looks like this: http://i.min.us/iErSa.png http://i.min.us/iErSa.png)
  - mgedmin 16y ago
    The deb conflict could be solved rather neatly by using dpkg diversions: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.ht...
  - peregrine 16y ago
    I would consider using dev chromium so you have the option to hide the system title bar and push the [x] [_] [[]] down inline with the tabs. Otherwise great links!
andreyf 16y ago
Gaaah, so many wasted vertical pixels! http://imgur.com/DwTik.png http://imgur.com/DwTik.png

PakG1 16y ago

The day that minimalism got equated with beauty was the day we realized we had too much clutter in our lives, so minimalism = beauty is simply a reactionary concept. Minimalism in of itself could not be considered beauty if you looked at what is considered beautiful art, architecture, clothing, etc, in general.

Groxx 16y ago
Take a course on art history. Especially global art history. This is not a new concept, new style, trend, focus, what-have-you, though it has gained new momentum. Edit: See: Suprematism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suprematism), De Stijl (though they liked bold colors) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Stijl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Stijl), arguably Bauhaus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus), "International Style" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_style_(architecture) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_style_(architectu... ), all of which came before the increased business in art of the 40s-60s, which came before "Minimalism" proper in ~1965. And this is primarily in America & Europe - other areas have had their blends as well. All of which was pretty heavily influenced by the traditional Japanese aesthetic, which has a pretty strong focus on Minimalism-like attributes. Minimalism as a positive thing isn't just reactionary. It also serves to bring subtle details into focus, and to emphasize the craft (ie, crafter's experience / quality) as a whole rather than individual details.

humblest_ever 16y ago

I agree wholeheartedly, I've been using Chrome for a few months now and every time I have to open Firefox to do something it's a little painful.

Groxx 16y ago

There's a lot of subtlety in Chrome, too. For instance (in 9.0.597): * Mouse over a tab, and move your cursor back and forth. The whole tab is highlighted, but there's extra brightness around the cursor. * Similarly, look carefully at the buttons on the main bar, or at bookmarks, when mousing over. There's a subtle brightening over a fraction of a second, instead of an instant-on hover effect. Don't believe it? Compare it to mousing over the "+" new tab button, which is instantly highlighted to its full degree. * Tabs, when re-arranged, slide to their new positions instead of snapping. * URLs lose http:// http://, and everything after the first "/" is very slightly grayed instead of black. * Every corner is curved. Every dark edge is under-highlighted, so tabs seem to "float above" the rest of the UI. Those back / reload buttons seem to be recessed black icons instead of buttons - until you mouse over them. * "Active" chrome elements - active tab, browser + extensions, and bookmarks - have a light -> dark -> light transition through all of them. Inactive tabs are noticeably closer to a solid, darker gray, though they to have a slight gradient. It helps unify the active tab with the applicable chrome seamlessly. You'll also notice Firefox 4 has adopted similar visual cues for tabs. All of which adds more visual cues to what things do, and easier hierarchical organization at a glance, while maintaining extremely minimal clutter. There are also a couple things I dislike. Like how utterly massive the bookmarks-in-folders on the bookmarks bar are. Almost twice what other browsers have / via the menu. Glitches in Web Inspector. Excessively-useful hidden preferences. But overall, there's a frightening amount of polish in Chrome.