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Show HN: Tree of Reddit Sex Life
- tareqak 8y agoThe link doesn’t contain any pictures, but it does have words inside a diagram. Here is the full quote of the content warning from the link: >> Begin quote Content warning: Explicit names of sexual practices (some are niche/fetish and one can find them distasteful or triggering). Most channels contain sexually explicit images. None of these links is an endorsement. Subreddits are clickable. Though, think twice before you do so. :) >> End quote
- mirimir 8y agoWhat a trip. I had no clue.
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- mfkp 8y agoWebsite is unfortunately unusable on mobile. The decided to disable zoom, and the right side of the tree font size is about 2px high. I've got good eyes but no amount of squinting is going to make that happen.
- tareqak 8y agoI can zoom in on the diagram fine on iOS 12.2 Safari (just another data point).
- pimlottc 8y agoI cannot on same (iPhone SE)
- NowThenGoodBad 8y agoSame here with same OS version.
- nxc18 8y agoIt, interestingly, is browser specific. Safari can zoom, chrome can't. I've been annoyed by chrome's zoom behavior, so this is a delightful find. Thanks!
- londons_explore 8y agoSafari ignores directives by the website to disable zoom. Lots of site owners disable zoom because they think they know best when it comes to content-size. Disabling zoom also makes the site slightly more responsive because when a touch occurs, the browser doesn't have to wait a few hundred milliseconds to see if a 2nd finger is going to be touched to start a zoom action.
- kalleboo 8y ago> Safari ignores directives by the website to disable zoom. Yep, as of iOS 10 https://webkit.org/blog/7367/new-interaction-behaviors-in-ios-10/ https://webkit.org/blog/7367/new-interaction-behaviors-in-io... And thank god for that, there were so many sites that disabled zoom for seemingly no reason, and somehow it was always the ones with tiny text or images.
- mfkp 8y agoAndroid Chrome can't zoom at all (anywhere on site, or on chart).
- mellosouls 8y agoSettings > Accessibility > Force enable zoom
- quietbritishjim 8y agoYou can if you turn on the "desktop site" option (in the menu in the top right). I believe this works for all sites.
- abdusco 8y agoYou can force enable zoom on all pages in accessibility settings
- aerique 8y agoSame here on Sailfish XA2 with Firefox running on Android emulation so I don't know WTF the OP is using ;-)
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- mfkp 8y agoWorkaround: you can click the 3 dots to the left of the chart to download a PNG file and then zoom in (but then of course it's not clickable).
- ShorsHammer 8y agoThis website is a blank white screen on desktop for me. Perhaps the author can display some partial reason why I should enable JS on this particular domain?
- djpilot 8y ago"To render the diagram" is a pretty good reason.
- ShorsHammer 8y agoHow am I meant to know that from a white screen? Complain on HN?
- vanderZwan 8y agoBecause it's a webside dedicated to writing interactive data-visualizations with tools like d3.js with an iPython-style notebook interface. Programmability is the whole point.
- ShorsHammer 8y agoAre you claiming that absolutely no content is possible to show here without js enabled? Not even a sentence like yours? I wouldn't have had a clue without asking. It's basic web courtesy.
- stared 8y agoFor a static diagram (a small version, no sibreddits), see: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/bc6kpw/oc_tree_of_reddit_sex_life/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/bc6kpw/oc_...
- ShorsHammer 8y agoCheers, that's great.
- hellllllllooo 8y agoIn chrome Android click the checkbox under the 3 dots menu labeled "Desktop site". Pinch to zoom works then.
- stared 8y agoThanks for this feedback. Yet, there is little I can fix. It is in ObservableHQ (http://observablehq.com/ http://observablehq.com/), with all of its pros and cons.
- adontz 8y agoBookmarked in the name of science!
- mr__y 8y agoDid you mean For Academic Purpose (F.A.P.)?
- aasasd 8y agoHuh, apparently some people don't think banana boobs and torpedo tits are the same thing. Anyway, time for mashups between tree branches!
- muzani 8y agoIf this is Reddit, I wonder what the dark web holds.
- viraptor 8y agoNot sure what you expect. Apart from purely illegal content like CP, what's the reason not to use Reddit? For anything else Reddit is great for topic communities.
- londons_explore 8y agoReddit is doing more and more content restrictions lately. If I was starting a community for something controversial or borderline illegal (sex acts, drug discussion, discussing pirate movies, radio spoofers, bomb design, etc.), Reddit wouldn't be the place I'd choose anymore.
- londons_explore 8y agoDark web content is far less well organised - it's more of a 'download all the content and hope' affair. A decent search engine over the dark web would make it not the dark web anymore...
- winningcontinue 8y agoi don't know what this data set is showing sociologically. it's just a scrape of data and not very well presented. that said, nice project but go on and give it something else.
- tareqak 8y agoIt’s a classification. It’d be interesting to see the size of the different subreddits too (number of subscribers and number of threads/replies/posts).
- bemmu 8y agoJust to give another opinion, I thought it was very neatly categorized and the tree view was a great way to show it.
- mikojan 8y agoThis. And it's not even original research. Seems HN is just drooling over anything code & nsfw at random.
- NowThenGoodBad 8y agoI really appreciate this perspective: "While human sexuality is a delicate subject, I deeply believe it should be discussed (vide my Dating for Nerds series) rather than shunned as a taboo topic. Some discussion about ethics and implications of using such data were covered in What I learned from building an AI that generates porn by David Mack." Until it becomes socially acceptable to talk openly about, we need more people going out on a limb and being open in this way.
- tsukurimashou 8y ago> Until it becomes socially acceptable to talk openly about Well you see, I would hate to live in a world where it became socially acceptable to talk about human sexuality I think it is good to be able to talk about it to your close friends / family But I'm already disgusted when I hear coworkers talk about porn or their (most of the time imaginary) sexual life. I think it is a very personal subject, and maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like you'd get less freedom in your sexual life if everybody was talking openly about it. Part of why I think that way is: people have weird fetishes for example, you could think in a society where you can talk openly about sex and you sexual life you could talk about your weird fetish, but I don't think that's the case, only "popular" fetishes / sexual preferences would be discussed, and "weird" fetishes / sexual preferences would be seen as degenerate. Again this is my opinion, maybe I'm wrong, but I would definitely not want to talk openly about sex with random people.
- Erlich_Bachman 8y ago> but I feel like you'd get less freedom in your sexual life if everybody was talking openly about it. Part of why I think that way is: people have weird fetishes for example, you could think in a society where you can talk openly about sex and you sexual life you could talk about your weird fetish, but I don't think that's the case, only "popular" fetishes / sexual preferences would be discussed, and "weird" fetishes / sexual preferences would be seen as degenerate. Likely exactly the other way around: people would hear other people having weird fetishes, and they would understand that most people have this weird side to them, and they would be more ok with their own weirdness.
- hedgew 8y agoThis is the kind of important explorative research that probably hasn't been done extensively or truthfully before, and yet shows deep insight into how the human mind works. It's worth noting that this only contains subreddits with explicit NSWF images. There are also who knows how many subreddits that are sexual in nature, but text-only!
- ducttapecrown 8y agoThis is actually false. There is a section called "literary" that includes some text-only subreddits.
- aasasd 8y agoThere's also the “well-known (in marginal circles)” map of nsfw subreddits: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/3z4k7v/map_of_nsfw_subreddits_oc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/3z4k7v/map... Using Reddit as a dataset is a regular pastime on r/dataisbeautiful, so afaik plenty of attempts have been made at this topic.
- wongarsu 8y agoDirect link to the interactive version: http://electronsoup.net/nsfw_subreddits/ http://electronsoup.net/nsfw_subreddits/ It's both beautiful and somewhat disappointing to me: It looks great but I don't get much new insight from looking at it.
- arbitrage 8y ago> yet shows deep insight into how the human mind works. or .... shows shallow insight into how the human mind organizes a vast array of similar information into buckets of similar sub-traits, which really has been done to death.
- aphantasiac 8y agoSomething I wonder about is ... if people can commonly imagine in a "minds eye" [0], why would they use porn? My ex-wife and I got along fine when we first met. But it wasn't a match made in heaven. We didn't kick boots [1] very often after getting legally hitched. In the dry months I went back to using the internet porn, which i despised/despise, but horny is horny. I would have rather have an imagination [3] or a partner, than 2-dimensional pixels on a screen. Reddit has vastly more subreddits of pictures of naked women than of naked men. Mostly this is a scarcity thing: penises are a dime a dozen; $$$ is enough to motivate some women to show skin for men who they otherwise have no interest in. Many young women have vast amounts of interest from men. One of my female friends, who isn't particularly attached to her partners, has a string of ex-boyfriends who obsess over her. She's said something about her fitting the 'wild-woman' archetype, whatever that means. When women get pregnant they have a long-term project on their hands, so evolution has decided that women get to decide who to father their likely children. (not all human societies respect womens' desires -- arranged marriages, etc. most societies don't help girls appreciate that boys' attraction is entirely different). Feudal societies disposed of excess men with conscription and pointless wars. Women whose best assets don't show up on the pixels sometimes have to put more effort into fishing for males than those with looks, but they still find partners. A friend of mine, who did not reciprocate my attraction for her, hooked me up with her not-particularly-choosy friend. I did not find the friend particularly attractive, but it was complicated at the time. It was traumatic, and completely unsatisfying. Men who have money get more attention from women who market their looks. But money is not required for female attention. Some men have figured out how to be smooth, and develop a magnetism for female attention. Other men have no idea what it is that makes them so annoying to the other gender. Some of these men have latched on to the incel label [2], which seems to feed on itself in a downward spiral. I suspect many of the redditors who build the subreddits featured in this "tree of reddit sex life" would much rather have partners, than to spend their free hours cultivating collections of pixelated women. I noted a comment here recently -- one of you fellas told about secretly fantasizing about a coworker (iirc), and that the coworker[s] wouldn't know about the fella's inner fantasies about her/them. If only 1/50 is an aphantasiac, that's still millions of men who don't fantasize. It's easy for them to turn to the pixelated women to get themselves off when they get horny. But I know men who have a fully-functional imagination, who use porn anyways. My question for the gallery: imagination is better than porn, is it not? Why do some men put so much effort into their collection of pixelated women? Perhaps it's a compulsion, not so different from heroin? [0] submission from 2 days ago about aphantasia: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19618927 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19618927 [1] kick boots -- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kickin%27%20boots https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kickin%27%20... [2] a woman coined the term 'involuntarily celebate', then she figured herself out and was no longer celibate. The term was taken over by lonely men. https://www.elle.com/culture/news/a34512/woman-who-started-incel-movement/ https://www.elle.com/culture/news/a34512/woman-who-started-i... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15176547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15176547
- randompi 8y agoThat's a can of worms unleashed that I never knew!
- negamax 8y agoWow.. it's like an entire part of reddit I was oblivious to.. good work
- Criper1Tookus 8y agoI think that this article is heaven for perverts.
- stared 8y agoAuthor here. I wrote a description in the main file, so I don't have to add much here. Though, I am open to feedback (especially for the graphical presentation, as the taxonomy & subreddit list is not mine). Even though I like and use D3.js a lot, it is my first post using ObservableHQ. It seemed to me to be a nice choice for this kind of content. Considered bl.ocks.org or repo/GH-page, but I think ObservableHQ makes it easier to edit and share.
- Chris2048 8y agoHow did you get the URLs given the reddit history search limit? Was it from the big-query dataset?
- stared 8y agoTo be honest, I have no idea. See https://github.com/EBazarov/nsfw_data_source_urls/ https://github.com/EBazarov/nsfw_data_source_urls/ for the data source I used. There is a Reddit bulk downloader capable of downloading ~1000 images from a subreddot: https://github.com/aliparlakci/bulk-downloader-for-reddit https://github.com/aliparlakci/bulk-downloader-for-reddit (or just image links, if needed); I tested it and it works well. Though, I have no idea if it was used for the project.
- lecarore 8y agoThis is neat, however (here comes the harsh critic) : - Rendering a simple tree like this would work just as well, if better, in text only format (like the output of the "tree" command on linux) : https://justpaste.it/6r9un https://justpaste.it/6r9un - The classification also seems a bit manual and arbitrary. Maybe giving each node a weight would make d3 worth using ? Maybe scrap the subscribers of each subreddit, and make a force directed "map of reddit nsfw" ? Your skills seem wasted on this if you're good at d3
- stared 8y agoYour text-based tree is nice, but it comes with pros and cons, as every datq visualization. In fact, it was my first idea, but I felt I need to create something better for exploring the high-level structure. But feel free to do a fork and a viz in this line: https://codepen.io/brendandougan/pen/PpEzRp https://codepen.io/brendandougan/pen/PpEzRp There are quite a few maps of Reddit according to co-participation in subreddits. Though it does not make it semantic. (Maybe semantic things can be extracted from the post content; though, I didn’t try.)
- alanpetrel 8y agoTree of Reddit sex life? Isn’t that just a stump?
- fadetogrey 8y agoThat's lots of info there, thx for sharing!
- d33 8y agoWould be interesting to see a graph of how things get reposted between subreddits. Also, I think you missed one quite relevant category: "perspectives". In many cases, it's just about the angle the picture was shot from. Perhaps it's worth including in your research?
- stared 8y agoNo need for suggestions, as this one is obvious. If you want to do so, go for it. It is a one-shot thing rather than research, BTW.
- d2161 8y agoHuh that's interesting
- metta2uall 8y agoWow, I'm quite shocked that reddit allows so much extreme violent content.. It's readily accessible, even advertised as subreddits, and there aren't any warnings or self-help resources. If people get into that stuff, which is readily addictive, I would think it has significant potential for psychological harm, especially for teenagers. One can argue that it's possible to compartmentalize it, but I doubt it since the mind/brain is a single highly integrated system.. Research seems to be mixed, and unfortunately I don't have time to study it in depth, but there are many articles like this: https://www.abc.net.au/religion/pornography-violence-and-sexual-entitlement-an-unspeakable-truth/10098248 https://www.abc.net.au/religion/pornography-violence-and-sex...
- Myrmornis 8y agoThe linked article contains a hell of a lot of stuff showing men thinking about women in ways that women would not like to be thought about (en masse at least). I'm completely against political correctness, I think Codes of Conducts on Github are progressive nonsense, but I don't really think this is a pleasant thread to be on HN, and I don't think it contributes to a welcoming atmosphere on HN for women and other non-male genders.