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Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks. There has been widesprea

Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks. There has been widespread advocacy for this sort of socially acceptable "picking on" in the West and in the United States in recent years. People in the SV/Bay Area tech and creative circles will do this. A few years ago, media people were advocating that we label people "Nazis" and then punch them. I remember people from my youth who used to namecall and label people, then haze them or do violence to them. They would have correctly been called racists and homophobes. In 2019, when people engage in similar behaviors, but for the "other" side, I see this as much worse. The best way to hurt a cause is to advocate for it badly. It doesn't matter the professed beliefs and stated reasons. To me, the actions speak much louder than the words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf5fAiXYr08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf5fAiXYr08

SolaceQuantum 8y ago
Not meaning to disagree but I want to know what are your suggestions regarding how to combat extremist viewpoints that seriously advocate for genocide (what I assume would get one labeled a nazi). Do you have evidence of nonviolent alternatives that work? (Again: I'm not saying that violence is the only answer- I genuinely am seeking evidence otherwise as I abhor violence.)
- stcredzero 8y ago
  your suggestions regarding how to combat extremist viewpoints that seriously advocate for genocide Those are pretty simple to advocate against. Murder bad. Who disagrees with that? Basically no one. Genocide bad. Who disagrees with that? Basically no one. However, here's how you can actually strengthen the bad side. Start pushing ridiculous narratives. Start calling everyone a Nazi. Say that even the "Ok" sign is a Nazi salute. Advocate for political violence. Basically, abandon the principles and moral framework of liberal democracy, and become just like them. The best way to combat extremist viewpoints is through adherence to principles and a moral framework -- showing that these can make you prosper. This is basically how we won the cold war. (what I assume would get one labeled a nazi) Bad assumption in 2019. In 2019, there are toxic members of the Far Left who will label anyone that for any kind of dissent from their particular views. I genuinely am seeking evidence otherwise as I abhor violence. If you are in the United States, then the evidence is all around you. It must be understood in the context of world history, however. If you truly abhor violence, then if you are a member of the left, you need to start calling it out on the left. The best way to fight evil, is to be forthright and speak out about it.

SolaceQuantum 8y ago

Not meaning to disagree but I want to know what are your suggestions regarding how to combat extremist viewpoints that seriously advocate for genocide (what I assume would get one labeled a nazi). Do you have evidence of nonviolent alternatives that work? (Again: I'm not saying that violence is the only answer- I genuinely am seeking evidence otherwise as I abhor violence.)

stcredzero 8y ago
your suggestions regarding how to combat extremist viewpoints that seriously advocate for genocide Those are pretty simple to advocate against. Murder bad. Who disagrees with that? Basically no one. Genocide bad. Who disagrees with that? Basically no one. However, here's how you can actually strengthen the bad side. Start pushing ridiculous narratives. Start calling everyone a Nazi. Say that even the "Ok" sign is a Nazi salute. Advocate for political violence. Basically, abandon the principles and moral framework of liberal democracy, and become just like them. The best way to combat extremist viewpoints is through adherence to principles and a moral framework -- showing that these can make you prosper. This is basically how we won the cold war. (what I assume would get one labeled a nazi) Bad assumption in 2019. In 2019, there are toxic members of the Far Left who will label anyone that for any kind of dissent from their particular views. I genuinely am seeking evidence otherwise as I abhor violence. If you are in the United States, then the evidence is all around you. It must be understood in the context of world history, however. If you truly abhor violence, then if you are a member of the left, you need to start calling it out on the left. The best way to fight evil, is to be forthright and speak out about it.