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The AoA sensor that MCAS uses, as well as the nose pitch monitoring adjustment due to the larger more powerful LEAP engines that causes a pitch up on the nose,
by drawkbox 8y ago
The AoA sensor that MCAS uses, as well as the nose pitch monitoring adjustment due to the larger more powerful LEAP engines that causes a pitch up on the nose, is external and in the front [1][2].
> Stall sensors are common, but the MAX is the only 737 to have a blade-like sensor on the exterior of the plane that can automatically pitch the plane down when it detects stall conditions -- without input any input from the crew [2]
Not only is it susceptible to birds but it could be sabotaged as well from the location of it, if I were investigating it I'd check into maintenance/storage/possible sabotage just in case.
Since the nose pitch monitoring system and MCAS use the AoA single sensor it is a single point of failure, it also seems like a security issue.
About the single sensor and single point of failure[2]:
> Boeing's 737 MAX, the model being flown by Indonesia's Lion Air that crashed last October killing all 189 on board, had been criticized for relying on a single sensor to detect the aircraft's angle of attack, according to today's Wall Street Journal. A preliminary investigation by Indonesia's National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC) blamed the stall prevention system (known as Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS) which relied on a the single sensor that provided erroneous data, causing the MCAS to misfire, leading to a series of events that put the plane into a nosedive.
> After the October crash, Boeing began updating the plane's software so multiple sensors would provide data to the stall prevention system, the company said in a statement on Monday.
About the external AoA sensor [1][2]:
> The 737 MAX with its larger engines mounted even more forward needed a separate sensor to sense stall, the nose up attitude of a plane that turns off aerodynamic lift over the wings. Stall sensors are common, but the MAX is the only 737 to have a blade-like sensor on the exterior of the plane that can automatically pitch the plane down when it detects stall conditions -- without input any input from the crew --according to Seattle Times veteran aerospace reporter, Dominic Gates, who is close to Renton, Washington where the 737 MAX is assembled.
> According to the preliminary report from Indonesia's NTSC and in a Boeing service bulletin, Lion Air flight 610 was providing erroneous data from a angle of attack (AOA) sensor. It appears the crew may have been fighting against: bad sensor data, a multitude of warnings and an automatic flight control system that seemed to be malfunctioning by automatically pushing the nose of the plane down repeatedly during the 11-minute flight. Ground control was contacted numerous times by the crew, who were repeatedly requesting permission to return to the airport.
[1] https://i.imgur.com/XTrf6EX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XTrf6EX.jpg
[2] https://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesignArticles/ArticleID/18734/Breaking-Faulty-Sensor-Data-May-Have-Caused-Boeing-737-MAX-Crashes.aspx https://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDes...
- peteradio 8y agoThat is really an interesting point on sabotage. Will these planes be cleared to take off without the sensor functioning though? I think the sensors failed after take off in these crash cases.
- VBprogrammer 8y agoIt's generally difficult to test these sensors before takeoff, it's basically a little blade or wing which measures the relative wind over the aircraft. Without forward speed it has nothing to measure.
- peteradio 8y agoGood point, I guess the only thing possible to test was that the vector is in the no wind direction. But that doesn't rule out a stuck blade.