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I personally know 3 ppl that died in chicago. Two of them were my coworkers, died in the same year. :/ Sorry but if you have kids and family you are fucking st

I personally know 3 ppl that died in chicago. Two of them were my coworkers, died in the same year. :/ Sorry but if you have kids and family you are fucking stupid to ride bikes on the street in chicago. White bikes on sidewalks are not street art. Go to lakeshore path/606 if you are dying to ride bikes. I got doored 2 yrs ago escaped only with broken wrist.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago
Replace Chicago with nearly every city. It’s a death wish.
- theseadroid 8y ago
  Have you been to cities in Netherlands or Danmark?
  - thealfreds 8y ago
    They were meaning US cities, we can certainly be very US centric in our thinking. And to keep on that theme let me talk about my city. If you don't actually need to get anywhere and want to ride for leisure Denver has some nice built up trails that sort of meander through neighborhoods that are completely separated from roads. Very safe and usually very pretty to ride on. Downtown looks pretty dangerous though.
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      > They were meaning US cities Even just considering US cities, that statement is not true. Some cities are very dangerous for bikes, but many are not.
bluejekyll 8y ago
Then I assume you would support a similar law in Chicago as Cambridge passed?
- dominotw 8y ago
  Yes but aren't you back on the street with no protection where there are no bike lanes( most of chicago)?
  - bluejekyll 8y ago
    I don't know Chicago, but I do know what's happened in San Francisco over the last 20 years. It's taken a long time, but the city is finally starting to take protected bike lanes seriously, sadly much of that is in response to lives lost. When I first got here, it was just a fight for standard bike lanes. For either to happen, more people need to get on their bikes and ride. Contributing to your local bike coalition is also great way to help push these issues forward. If everyone follows your advice and chooses to not ride because of the danger, then nothing will change, and the lives lost to poor road infrastructure and poor driver education will have been for nothing.
    - dominotw 8y ago
      > If everyone follows your advice and chooses to not ride because of the danger, then nothing will change Are you seriously suggesting some ppl risk their lives for 'change'? Sorry I really don't want to trade my life for bike lanes, there are ppl counting on me to stay alive.
      - bluejekyll 8y ago
        No, I don't want people to risk their lives for anything. I want things to change. 40,000 people die a year in the US while driving or riding in cars, following your logic, that is also extremely risky, and so we shouldn't do it.
        dominotw 8y ago
        I am not sure thats a correct analogy. Driving a car to work is not an optional activity for most ppl. Ppl riding their bikes in the city are doing it for fun/thrill/whatever, its an optional activity for 90% of the ppl doing it. I have a theory that most of these ppl would stop doing it once the thrill/'cool factor' goes away with protected bike lanes.
u801e 8y ago
> I got doored 2 yrs ago escaped only with broken wrist. The best way to avoid getting doored is to not ride so close to parked cars. You should maintain a distance of at least 6 feet from parked cars while riding.
- rmcpherson 8y ago
  This is often impossible when bike lanes are adjacent to parked cars.
  - u801e 8y ago
    Those are badly placed bike lanes (and honestly those who make the decision to place door zone bike lanes should be fired and lose their professional engineering license). It's better to not use them at all and just ride in the general traffic lane instead.
megaremote 8y ago
Yes, you are stupid and should become part of the problem. Be part of the industry of drivers, that are responsible for 40,000 deaths every year in the US.

crushcrashcrush 8y ago

Replace Chicago with nearly every city. It’s a death wish.

theseadroid 8y ago
Have you been to cities in Netherlands or Danmark?
- thealfreds 8y ago
  They were meaning US cities, we can certainly be very US centric in our thinking. And to keep on that theme let me talk about my city. If you don't actually need to get anywhere and want to ride for leisure Denver has some nice built up trails that sort of meander through neighborhoods that are completely separated from roads. Very safe and usually very pretty to ride on. Downtown looks pretty dangerous though.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    > They were meaning US cities Even just considering US cities, that statement is not true. Some cities are very dangerous for bikes, but many are not.

bluejekyll 8y ago

Then I assume you would support a similar law in Chicago as Cambridge passed?

dominotw 8y ago
Yes but aren't you back on the street with no protection where there are no bike lanes( most of chicago)?
- bluejekyll 8y ago
  I don't know Chicago, but I do know what's happened in San Francisco over the last 20 years. It's taken a long time, but the city is finally starting to take protected bike lanes seriously, sadly much of that is in response to lives lost. When I first got here, it was just a fight for standard bike lanes. For either to happen, more people need to get on their bikes and ride. Contributing to your local bike coalition is also great way to help push these issues forward. If everyone follows your advice and chooses to not ride because of the danger, then nothing will change, and the lives lost to poor road infrastructure and poor driver education will have been for nothing.
  - dominotw 8y ago
    > If everyone follows your advice and chooses to not ride because of the danger, then nothing will change Are you seriously suggesting some ppl risk their lives for 'change'? Sorry I really don't want to trade my life for bike lanes, there are ppl counting on me to stay alive.
    - bluejekyll 8y ago
      No, I don't want people to risk their lives for anything. I want things to change. 40,000 people die a year in the US while driving or riding in cars, following your logic, that is also extremely risky, and so we shouldn't do it.
      - dominotw 8y ago
        I am not sure thats a correct analogy. Driving a car to work is not an optional activity for most ppl. Ppl riding their bikes in the city are doing it for fun/thrill/whatever, its an optional activity for 90% of the ppl doing it. I have a theory that most of these ppl would stop doing it once the thrill/'cool factor' goes away with protected bike lanes.

u801e 8y ago

> I got doored 2 yrs ago escaped only with broken wrist. The best way to avoid getting doored is to not ride so close to parked cars. You should maintain a distance of at least 6 feet from parked cars while riding.

rmcpherson 8y ago
This is often impossible when bike lanes are adjacent to parked cars.
- u801e 8y ago
  Those are badly placed bike lanes (and honestly those who make the decision to place door zone bike lanes should be fired and lose their professional engineering license). It's better to not use them at all and just ride in the general traffic lane instead.

megaremote 8y ago

Yes, you are stupid and should become part of the problem. Be part of the industry of drivers, that are responsible for 40,000 deaths every year in the US.