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We really have to go back to a model where most computation is done on the client and data mainly goes from server to client and not the other way. They shouldn

We really have to go back to a model where most computation is done on the client and data mainly goes from server to client and not the other way. They shouldn’t be using real conversations for training their models or at least only in a very limited and open manner. Soon these companies will see everything we do, hear everything we say and read everything we write. That’s not a good future.

furst 8y ago
There are actually a few projects that follow this model much closer than Alexa/Siri/Google Assistant, or at the very least let you control host the computation on your desktop so you know where all your traffic is going. https://mycroft.ai/ https://mycroft.ai/ https://snips.ai/ https://snips.ai/
saiya-jin 8y ago
> Soon these companies will see everything we do, hear everything we say and read everything we write. Seriously, in 2019, you are actually surprised this is happening? After all the news that keeps popping out, proving that almost every single effin' company out there is after as much client data as possible, regardless of morals and sometimes even laws? People actually pay for devices that keep monitoring them, hilarious (and sad tbh). To save few clicks and feel 'modern'? I fail to see the proper added value in ones life of all these assistants, not in the light of all the technical f_ckups that shouldn't have happened by simple design decisions.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  I am not really surprised as such but I am worried that my worst suspicions seem to always come true. If that trend continues then our future will be very bleak and very suppressive.
wybiral 8y ago
There's a team of people at Mozilla working on adding an offline speech recognition API [1] to Firefox. This is particularly exciting to me because I have a SpeechRecognition-based "assistant" framework that I would love to make 100% locally served. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1248897 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1248897

furst 8y ago

There are actually a few projects that follow this model much closer than Alexa/Siri/Google Assistant, or at the very least let you control host the computation on your desktop so you know where all your traffic is going. https://mycroft.ai/ https://mycroft.ai/ https://snips.ai/ https://snips.ai/

saiya-jin 8y ago

> Soon these companies will see everything we do, hear everything we say and read everything we write. Seriously, in 2019, you are actually surprised this is happening? After all the news that keeps popping out, proving that almost every single effin' company out there is after as much client data as possible, regardless of morals and sometimes even laws? People actually pay for devices that keep monitoring them, hilarious (and sad tbh). To save few clicks and feel 'modern'? I fail to see the proper added value in ones life of all these assistants, not in the light of all the technical f_ckups that shouldn't have happened by simple design decisions.

maxxxxx 8y ago
I am not really surprised as such but I am worried that my worst suspicions seem to always come true. If that trend continues then our future will be very bleak and very suppressive.

wybiral 8y ago

There's a team of people at Mozilla working on adding an offline speech recognition API [1] to Firefox. This is particularly exciting to me because I have a SpeechRecognition-based "assistant" framework that I would love to make 100% locally served. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1248897 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1248897