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Borg Backup is mostly the same as Restic (regarding dedup / incremental backup) [1] and aggregates data into large chunks. If you only backup from a single mac

Borg Backup is mostly the same as Restic (regarding dedup / incremental backup) [1] and aggregates data into large chunks. If you only backup from a single machine it has a local cache of already backed up data, this has the large advantage that it basically only needs to push the delta data to the remote, not do any kind of synchronization to check what is already there or not. [1]: https://stickleback.dk/borg-or-restic/ https://stickleback.dk/borg-or-restic/

rsync 8y ago
"Borg Backup is mostly the same as Restic (regarding dedup / incremental backup)" ... with one very big difference - you can only point borg at an SSH host. You can't point borg at S3 or B2 or Glacier, etc. rsync.net supports both borg and restic, but even the heavily discounted plans[1] are much more expensive than "Cold Storage" or Glacier, because they are live, random access UNIX filesystems ... [1] https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html
- phiresky 8y ago
  True - which is kind of weird, because as far as I understand their respective "databases", borg would be more suited for arbitrary remote storage because it should only need a "upload file" command basically without any interactivity, except for its robustness checks and some additional flexibility (having multiple backup sources, deleting data that is no longer needed). Restic seems more made from the ground up to utilize the existing power of a filesystem as a database, so it needs remote storage that offers quick interactivity (esp. checking existing files), i.e. it's impossible to use something like Glacier as a backend. It's not a problem for me since I just backup to a local drive and (am planning to setup) synchronization to a remote dumb storage.
- m3nu 8y ago
  Shameless plug: I built a backup service[1] just for Borg and the price per TB on the large plan is $5/TB. Not as cheap as "cold storage", but still better than rsync.net and the same as B2. Also worth pointing out that my storage is calculated after compression and deduplication. So depending on the data a Borg backup can be much smaller than the actual data. 1: https://www.borgbase.com https://www.borgbase.com
  - pnutjam 8y ago
    Interesting. I've been backing up to a storage node at time4vps. I have an older plan at about $15/ quarter. https://billing.time4vps.eu/?affid=1881 https://billing.time4vps.eu/?affid=1881

rsync 8y ago

"Borg Backup is mostly the same as Restic (regarding dedup / incremental backup)" ... with one very big difference - you can only point borg at an SSH host. You can't point borg at S3 or B2 or Glacier, etc. rsync.net supports both borg and restic, but even the heavily discounted plans[1] are much more expensive than "Cold Storage" or Glacier, because they are live, random access UNIX filesystems ... [1] https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html

phiresky 8y ago
True - which is kind of weird, because as far as I understand their respective "databases", borg would be more suited for arbitrary remote storage because it should only need a "upload file" command basically without any interactivity, except for its robustness checks and some additional flexibility (having multiple backup sources, deleting data that is no longer needed). Restic seems more made from the ground up to utilize the existing power of a filesystem as a database, so it needs remote storage that offers quick interactivity (esp. checking existing files), i.e. it's impossible to use something like Glacier as a backend. It's not a problem for me since I just backup to a local drive and (am planning to setup) synchronization to a remote dumb storage.
m3nu 8y ago
Shameless plug: I built a backup service[1] just for Borg and the price per TB on the large plan is $5/TB. Not as cheap as "cold storage", but still better than rsync.net and the same as B2. Also worth pointing out that my storage is calculated after compression and deduplication. So depending on the data a Borg backup can be much smaller than the actual data. 1: https://www.borgbase.com https://www.borgbase.com
- pnutjam 8y ago
  Interesting. I've been backing up to a storage node at time4vps. I have an older plan at about $15/ quarter. https://billing.time4vps.eu/?affid=1881 https://billing.time4vps.eu/?affid=1881