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wikileaks/Assange during the recent US presidential elections. that’s what did it for me. even now, knowing what we now about Russian interference, they still h

by kmlx 8y ago

wikileaks/Assange during the recent US presidential elections. that’s what did it for me. even now, knowing what we now about Russian interference, they still have the “Hillary Clinton email archive” proudly displayed on their homepage. also, there are those rape cases for which he ran away. shady stuff.

wolco 8y ago
Knowing what we know? What do we know now. The Russian narrative worked so well. I can't believe it was so easy to fool Americans.
- kmlx 8y ago
  I was born in Eastern Europe. Russian subversion is rife in the region. and they've been at it for decades, no impunity. it's so common that people from my region have a special affinity for detecting Russian propaganda. we see it from a mile away. even so, the Russians know which buttons to press and where. see Ukraine.
acct1771 8y ago
Those rape cases are exactly part of what the comment you're responding to is talking about.
- chronogram 8y ago
  The important part is running away from them. Wasn’t that in 2010 already? Dodging the court is shady.
  - celeritascelery 8y ago
    When you Leak classified international documents, you tend to distrust the courts.
lowpro 8y ago
Even if Russia leaked the emails (not certain as the media would have you believe at all, not saying it’s conspiracy but It’s not conclusive), the information regarding massive corruption in the DNC was true, and that information being public is 1) good and 2) important.
- magnamerc 8y ago
  Isn't it confirmed that the Russians hacked the DNC e-mails on the day that Trump famously said: 'Russia, if you're listening...". Wasn't that in the indictment for the 12 members of the GRU?
  - creaghpatr 8y ago
    No, it's not, nor is it related.
    - akhilcacharya 8y ago
      It is related, if only possibly by coincidence https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/13/russians-hillary-clinton-email-server-trump-indictment https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/13/russians-hil...
      - creaghpatr 8y ago
        It's not, the Mueller investigation debunked that as a conspiracy theory.
        kadendogthing 8y ago
        You've seen the Mueller report?
        ilikehurdles 8y ago
        Where/when?
        8y ago
ionised 8y ago
So guilty until proven innocent. Got it.
- kmlx 8y ago
  i didn't say anything about guilt. i was replying to the post above me asking about why some have turned against him.
kmlx 8y ago
let's not forget about this gem: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec... The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

by kmlx 8y ago

wolco 8y ago

Knowing what we know? What do we know now. The Russian narrative worked so well. I can't believe it was so easy to fool Americans.

kmlx 8y ago
I was born in Eastern Europe. Russian subversion is rife in the region. and they've been at it for decades, no impunity. it's so common that people from my region have a special affinity for detecting Russian propaganda. we see it from a mile away. even so, the Russians know which buttons to press and where. see Ukraine.

acct1771 8y ago

Those rape cases are exactly part of what the comment you're responding to is talking about.

chronogram 8y ago
The important part is running away from them. Wasn’t that in 2010 already? Dodging the court is shady.
- celeritascelery 8y ago
  When you Leak classified international documents, you tend to distrust the courts.

lowpro 8y ago

Even if Russia leaked the emails (not certain as the media would have you believe at all, not saying it’s conspiracy but It’s not conclusive), the information regarding massive corruption in the DNC was true, and that information being public is 1) good and 2) important.

magnamerc 8y ago
Isn't it confirmed that the Russians hacked the DNC e-mails on the day that Trump famously said: 'Russia, if you're listening...". Wasn't that in the indictment for the 12 members of the GRU?
- creaghpatr 8y ago
  No, it's not, nor is it related.
  - akhilcacharya 8y ago
    It is related, if only possibly by coincidence https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/13/russians-hillary-clinton-email-server-trump-indictment https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/13/russians-hil...
    - creaghpatr 8y ago
      It's not, the Mueller investigation debunked that as a conspiracy theory.
      - kadendogthing 8y ago
        You've seen the Mueller report?
      - ilikehurdles 8y ago
        Where/when?
      - 8y ago

ionised 8y ago

So guilty until proven innocent. Got it.

kmlx 8y ago
i didn't say anything about guilt. i was replying to the post above me asking about why some have turned against him.

kmlx 8y ago

let's not forget about this gem: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-sec... The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.