I keep walking into shops and look at a god-awful mess on the screen, with complex builds, state, unit-tests, and all kinds of other stuff that come together to

I keep walking into shops and look at a god-awful mess on the screen, with complex builds, state, unit-tests, and all kinds of other stuff that come together to create an app. Then I look at these same apps and realize that there's something like a 20-to-1 ratio between all of that and the simplest possible solution, which many times (but not all) involves JQuery. Hey, if whatever works for you is awesome, please carry on. But if you're behind schedule, the SPA is too slow, the users say it's buggy, most of your devs couldn't manipulate the DOM directly if they were forced to, and the lead just spent until midnight getting the build working right, then you might want to start examining some of your development and architecture choices. I love tools and abstraction frameworks -- right until the time they start taking over more time, effort, and learning than just pounding a solution out in something like JQuery would. I'm glad the update is out. Looking forward to playing around with it some ... the next time I need something as full-featured as it is. With greenfield development, we start with zero stuff and carefully justify each addition after that.