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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people ru

by antocv 8y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murderers of those 2 journalists and wounding 2 children are free, they had been laughing while killing them. Here we see whom the state hunts for "justice", Assange, for letting us know above.

Stuckinsofa 8y ago
Oh come on. The fact that he has done some good doesn't mean that he is above the law.
- garmaine 8y ago
  What law, exactly?
  - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
    I will refer you to reading TFA. Also: rape.
    - bluehatbrit 8y ago
      The rape charges were dropped and incredibly suspicious as well.
      - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
        Because he ran away.
    - rndgermandude 8y ago
      I honestly don't like that what is alleged he did is referred to as rape as that implies violence to me. He is alleged to have had consensual sex with somebody, but without her knowledge removed the condom, which she only noticed later. While this is a consent issue and should be criminal, it's not the same as what I would think of when I hear "rape". Also, the charges, had been dropped and he was free to leave Sweden, then the case was reopened for no apparent legal reason, and eventually the charges have been dropped again. So, to claim he is wanted for "rape" is just false. He isn't wanted for any crime except skipping bail and possibly contempt of court. Now he is UK custody, there is speculation that the US will bring charges and a warrant for his arrest regarding espionage and whatever else they can muster, as was kind of confirmed when the one DA accidentally leaked the secret grand jury investigation against Assange in an unrelated filing.
      - rndgermandude 8y ago
        Well, this comment did not age well...
      - ceejayoz 8y ago
        There's no requirement for a rape to be violent. Sex with a toddler is rape. Sex with a passed-out person you run across is rape. Sex with a blindfolded person who's into bondage but expecting someone else is rape. If someone says they're only willing to have sex with a condom, and you secretly remove that condom, you're having non-consensual sex, i.e. rape.
  - Ntrails 8y ago
    Failing to surrender to court (ie breaching terms of bail). This is to avoid facing the allegations in Sweden. Feigning ignorance of the obvious doesn't help anyone
  - Crosseye_Jack 8y ago
    failing to surrender to the court. Bit like how in the US resisting arrest is a crime itself even if there was no legal grounds for the attempted arrest.
- teknopaul 8y ago
  "Seeking asylum" is not tbe same as "above the law" as the BBC would have you think. Lets see if he ends up in the states.
  - lucozade 8y ago
    He hasn't been arrested for seeking asylum. He's been arrested for jumping bail. He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges. He sought asylum the moment he knew he would have to face those charges. So you're correct. Seeking asylum isn't the same as being above the law. It's the same as avoiding being subject to the law. I can't say I see the distinction as being especially material.
    - patrickaljord 8y ago
      > He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges Just to be precise the actual charge is that he was accused of having sex without a condom without telling his partner.
      - lucozade 8y ago
        From Wikipedia. > On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention of Julian Assange on suspicion of rape, three cases of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. Are you saying that that's not true? I don't speak Swedish so I can't go back to the actual documentation to check myself.
        patrickaljord 8y ago
        This is correct, it's just that Swedish law considers "having sex without a condom without telling his partner" as rape.
      - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
        So rape.
  - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
yreg 8y ago
He wasn't arrested for that specific video.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
  Nobody would be that stupid to try to arrest him for this.
- kakarot 8y ago
  Of course, he was arrested on completely unrelated bogus charges, so that we never have to have the conversation about whether or not he deserves prison for whistle-blowing.

by antocv 8y ago

Stuckinsofa 8y ago

Oh come on. The fact that he has done some good doesn't mean that he is above the law.

garmaine 8y ago
What law, exactly?
- Stuckinsofa 8y ago
  I will refer you to reading TFA. Also: rape.
  - bluehatbrit 8y ago
    The rape charges were dropped and incredibly suspicious as well.
    - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
      Because he ran away.
  - rndgermandude 8y ago
    I honestly don't like that what is alleged he did is referred to as rape as that implies violence to me. He is alleged to have had consensual sex with somebody, but without her knowledge removed the condom, which she only noticed later. While this is a consent issue and should be criminal, it's not the same as what I would think of when I hear "rape". Also, the charges, had been dropped and he was free to leave Sweden, then the case was reopened for no apparent legal reason, and eventually the charges have been dropped again. So, to claim he is wanted for "rape" is just false. He isn't wanted for any crime except skipping bail and possibly contempt of court. Now he is UK custody, there is speculation that the US will bring charges and a warrant for his arrest regarding espionage and whatever else they can muster, as was kind of confirmed when the one DA accidentally leaked the secret grand jury investigation against Assange in an unrelated filing.
    - rndgermandude 8y ago
      Well, this comment did not age well...
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      There's no requirement for a rape to be violent. Sex with a toddler is rape. Sex with a passed-out person you run across is rape. Sex with a blindfolded person who's into bondage but expecting someone else is rape. If someone says they're only willing to have sex with a condom, and you secretly remove that condom, you're having non-consensual sex, i.e. rape.
- Ntrails 8y ago
  Failing to surrender to court (ie breaching terms of bail). This is to avoid facing the allegations in Sweden. Feigning ignorance of the obvious doesn't help anyone
- Crosseye_Jack 8y ago
  failing to surrender to the court. Bit like how in the US resisting arrest is a crime itself even if there was no legal grounds for the attempted arrest.
teknopaul 8y ago
"Seeking asylum" is not tbe same as "above the law" as the BBC would have you think. Lets see if he ends up in the states.
- lucozade 8y ago
  He hasn't been arrested for seeking asylum. He's been arrested for jumping bail. He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges. He sought asylum the moment he knew he would have to face those charges. So you're correct. Seeking asylum isn't the same as being above the law. It's the same as avoiding being subject to the law. I can't say I see the distinction as being especially material.
  - patrickaljord 8y ago
    > He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges Just to be precise the actual charge is that he was accused of having sex without a condom without telling his partner.
    - lucozade 8y ago
      From Wikipedia. > On 18 November 2010, Marianne Ny ordered the detention of Julian Assange on suspicion of rape, three cases of sexual molestation and unlawful coercion. Are you saying that that's not true? I don't speak Swedish so I can't go back to the actual documentation to check myself.
      - patrickaljord 8y ago
        This is correct, it's just that Swedish law considers "having sex without a condom without telling his partner" as rape.
    - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
      So rape.
- Stuckinsofa 8y ago

yreg 8y ago

He wasn't arrested for that specific video.

dvfjsdhgfv 8y ago
Nobody would be that stupid to try to arrest him for this.
kakarot 8y ago
Of course, he was arrested on completely unrelated bogus charges, so that we never have to have the conversation about whether or not he deserves prison for whistle-blowing.