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The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. The "

The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges.

snvzz 8y ago
>The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. Charges (which were ridiculous to begin with) were dropped. >The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges. That's horrible, but what I expect. Extradition to a country that has the death penalty from a country that doesn't shouldn't be a thing.
- Stuckinsofa 8y ago
  Why were the charges ridiculous?
  - snvzz 8y ago
    Sweden's laws on "sexual misconduct" are extremely backwards. Do not quote me on this, but I recall it was something along the lines of "he touched me while I was asleep after we had sex".
    - dlp211 8y ago
      No. He put himself inside her without a condom after an consensual agreement was made that he would use a condom.
      - AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
        This was a dickish thing to do on his part (although far form rape). I think that the seven years he spent at the embassy are enough of a punishment. The only thing that I believe would be fair to have is monetary compensation to the victims.
        Stuckinsofa 8y ago
        He was in the embassy on his own free will. I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years and come out claiming it's fine because I hid. Because that's not how stuff works. As for rape, what he allegedly did was just that. You can make up your own meaning of the word but they are e completely irrelevant in this context.
        snvzz 8y ago
        >I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years Allegedly. Presumption of innocence and all that. >and come out claiming it's fine because I hid. The charges were dropped, thus these charges are not why he's in custody.
        AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
        > I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years and come out claiming it's fine because I hid Depending on the situation I think that it would be acceptable to remove some years (less than 5) from your sentence. (You would still have to pay the victim the full amount of money though) > You can make up your own meaning of the word This is exactly what you are doing. I do not know of anyone else who considers removing a condom during consensual sex to be rape.
        snvzz 8y ago
        There's no sexual misconduct victim, as charges were dropped. And since charges were dropped, we should stop even remotely suggesting the subject is guilty. Enough damage has been done to their image already through what seems to be extremely cheap accusations. Just imagine if this kind of character assassination happened to you, and you saw your life destroyed with no consequence to the perpetrator.
    - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
      So the laws are extremely backwards but you aren't really sure about a single example to show that this claim is correct? Come on.
AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
And apparently they selected the immoral option.

snvzz 8y ago

>The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. Charges (which were ridiculous to begin with) were dropped. >The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges. That's horrible, but what I expect. Extradition to a country that has the death penalty from a country that doesn't shouldn't be a thing.

Stuckinsofa 8y ago
Why were the charges ridiculous?
- snvzz 8y ago
  Sweden's laws on "sexual misconduct" are extremely backwards. Do not quote me on this, but I recall it was something along the lines of "he touched me while I was asleep after we had sex".
  - dlp211 8y ago
    No. He put himself inside her without a condom after an consensual agreement was made that he would use a condom.
    - AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
      This was a dickish thing to do on his part (although far form rape). I think that the seven years he spent at the embassy are enough of a punishment. The only thing that I believe would be fair to have is monetary compensation to the victims.
      - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
        He was in the embassy on his own free will. I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years and come out claiming it's fine because I hid. Because that's not how stuff works. As for rape, what he allegedly did was just that. You can make up your own meaning of the word but they are e completely irrelevant in this context.
        snvzz 8y ago
        >I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years Allegedly. Presumption of innocence and all that. >and come out claiming it's fine because I hid. The charges were dropped, thus these charges are not why he's in custody.
        AnaniasAnanas 8y ago
        > I can't rape some women and then hide under a rock for 5 years and come out claiming it's fine because I hid Depending on the situation I think that it would be acceptable to remove some years (less than 5) from your sentence. (You would still have to pay the victim the full amount of money though) > You can make up your own meaning of the word This is exactly what you are doing. I do not know of anyone else who considers removing a condom during consensual sex to be rape.
        snvzz 8y ago
        There's no sexual misconduct victim, as charges were dropped. And since charges were dropped, we should stop even remotely suggesting the subject is guilty. Enough damage has been done to their image already through what seems to be extremely cheap accusations. Just imagine if this kind of character assassination happened to you, and you saw your life destroyed with no consequence to the perpetrator.
  - Stuckinsofa 8y ago
    So the laws are extremely backwards but you aren't really sure about a single example to show that this claim is correct? Come on.

AnaniasAnanas 8y ago

And apparently they selected the immoral option.