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I’m not sure why you are being downvoted. I do not have any reason to believe men are any more resilient to harassment than women are.

peteretep 8y ago
No data to support this assumption, but I’d wager a good chunk of cash on more men being the perpetrators of online harassment.
- adrianN 8y ago
  I claim the opposite with an equal amount of supporting data! I even make my factoid more believable than yours by calling to mind the viciousness of harassment among teenage girls and I point out that they are avid users of social media.
  - coding123 8y ago
    I'm gonna wager a third option with ALL chips in that it's not the gender that's at issue but the gender roles that is at issue and is to blame for the harassment.
- bubblewrap 8y ago
  There have been studies showing most harassers of women are actually other women. I think it was for Twitter, and perhaps comments on The Guardian website, not sure about the details. I don't know the total numbers for harassment in general. For example if more men than women would use a particular social network, men would likely be more often harassers. In total numbers, not proportions. But I am not sure you would win your bet. I'm pretty sure men are more often the target of harassment than women. Would take that bet. Edit: can't find the exact articles anymore (thanks for nothing, liberal Google), but here is for example one mentioning 50% of harassment women receive on Twitter is from other women: https://www.businessinsider.de/half-of-the-sexist-harassment-women-face-on-twitter-comes-from-women-2016-5?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.de/half-of-the-sexist-harassment...
  - okcando 8y ago
    I heard on I think Malcolm Gladwell's podcast (and he's hardly infallible and this is second hand so grains of salt and all that) that women tend to harass other women more often when they are underrepresented or subordinated in the group. The context was a diversity hiring push that put a few women in otherwise primarily male offices across the country and saw disappointing results. The idea was that when women (or any minority group) are outnumbered, they will try to defy expectations and stand out by adopting the social habits of the majority and will compete with each other for ratification. And that makes some amount of sense to me, like when a gay man reassures us that he's conservative and subtle and a good dinner guest and not like those oversexed deviants that march in the parades. He's forsaking others in his minority group to get in the club. But it's a thin line. I don't mean to take the position that anything bad that women do is always the fault of men. It's just hard to suss out something this complicated.
- schwurb 8y ago
  What does the effect of harassment on males have to do with whether males are more likely to be harassers?
bluescrn 8y ago
Men are in some ways stuck in their historical gender role, expected to be tough and ‘have a thick skin’. There’s certainly vast amounts of abuse and harassment hurled at men online - politicians in particular. Right now, the US president probably receives more online hate than anyone else in history...
- FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
  You had me going with a convincing argument till you finished your second sentence.
  - dsfyu404ed 8y ago
    I'm not going to wade into the gender roles debate but who "receives" the most online hate Depends on your definition of "receives" The most polarizing US president since the internet no doubt has the most shit talked about him on the internet (I'm sure someone more polarizing will come along eventually though). I don't think he sees much of it. It's not like world leaders fill their free time by browsing /r/politics.
  - JimiofEden 8y ago
    I mean, it doesn't sound completely wrong to me so far in history. Regardless of whether or not that hate is deserved is another matter. But thinking back as to who else receives as much hate: A few other thoughts are Hitler, maybe W Bush back before modern social media took over. There was definitely the whole Shkreli thing, but I don't think that ever reached the average joe as much as the others have.

peteretep 8y ago

No data to support this assumption, but I’d wager a good chunk of cash on more men being the perpetrators of online harassment.

adrianN 8y ago
I claim the opposite with an equal amount of supporting data! I even make my factoid more believable than yours by calling to mind the viciousness of harassment among teenage girls and I point out that they are avid users of social media.
- coding123 8y ago
  I'm gonna wager a third option with ALL chips in that it's not the gender that's at issue but the gender roles that is at issue and is to blame for the harassment.
bubblewrap 8y ago
There have been studies showing most harassers of women are actually other women. I think it was for Twitter, and perhaps comments on The Guardian website, not sure about the details. I don't know the total numbers for harassment in general. For example if more men than women would use a particular social network, men would likely be more often harassers. In total numbers, not proportions. But I am not sure you would win your bet. I'm pretty sure men are more often the target of harassment than women. Would take that bet. Edit: can't find the exact articles anymore (thanks for nothing, liberal Google), but here is for example one mentioning 50% of harassment women receive on Twitter is from other women: https://www.businessinsider.de/half-of-the-sexist-harassment-women-face-on-twitter-comes-from-women-2016-5?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.de/half-of-the-sexist-harassment...
- okcando 8y ago
  I heard on I think Malcolm Gladwell's podcast (and he's hardly infallible and this is second hand so grains of salt and all that) that women tend to harass other women more often when they are underrepresented or subordinated in the group. The context was a diversity hiring push that put a few women in otherwise primarily male offices across the country and saw disappointing results. The idea was that when women (or any minority group) are outnumbered, they will try to defy expectations and stand out by adopting the social habits of the majority and will compete with each other for ratification. And that makes some amount of sense to me, like when a gay man reassures us that he's conservative and subtle and a good dinner guest and not like those oversexed deviants that march in the parades. He's forsaking others in his minority group to get in the club. But it's a thin line. I don't mean to take the position that anything bad that women do is always the fault of men. It's just hard to suss out something this complicated.
schwurb 8y ago
What does the effect of harassment on males have to do with whether males are more likely to be harassers?

bluescrn 8y ago

Men are in some ways stuck in their historical gender role, expected to be tough and ‘have a thick skin’. There’s certainly vast amounts of abuse and harassment hurled at men online - politicians in particular. Right now, the US president probably receives more online hate than anyone else in history...

FuckOffNeemo 8y ago
You had me going with a convincing argument till you finished your second sentence.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  I'm not going to wade into the gender roles debate but who "receives" the most online hate Depends on your definition of "receives" The most polarizing US president since the internet no doubt has the most shit talked about him on the internet (I'm sure someone more polarizing will come along eventually though). I don't think he sees much of it. It's not like world leaders fill their free time by browsing /r/politics.
- JimiofEden 8y ago
  I mean, it doesn't sound completely wrong to me so far in history. Regardless of whether or not that hate is deserved is another matter. But thinking back as to who else receives as much hate: A few other thoughts are Hitler, maybe W Bush back before modern social media took over. There was definitely the whole Shkreli thing, but I don't think that ever reached the average joe as much as the others have.