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Nicely written up! What would you say are some of the best tables out there for depth of play along these lines? I hear Addams Family come up a lot, and you m

Nicely written up! What would you say are some of the best tables out there for depth of play along these lines? I hear Addams Family come up a lot, and you mention that and Black Knight as well.

joejerryronnie 8y ago
White Water was my favorite back in highschool!
mtnGoat 8y ago
The newest star wars pin seems to have a lot of sequences, I'm not sure how many but I feel like I find new ones every time I play. Monster Bash, and lord of the rings are pretty in depth too. The latest addition to my collection is from 1976 and I have yet to do all the sequences, which is pretty impressive as it's an EM(electromechanical) machine. Ive spent at least 12 hours trying. Japanese candy arcades are fun to collect and play also.
dasil003 8y ago
Twilight Zone from 1993 was long considered one of the deepest games and it’s still amazing. The new Sterns have much more complex rule sets though, and firmware that is initially sparse and gets refined to add a lot of depth. Probably the deepest and most diverse players game at the moment is Iron Maiden, it was designed by Keith Elwin who is widely regarded as the best pinball player of all time. But just walking up to a game will not reveal the depth to you. I suggest playing a game, the look up a tutorial from Bowen Kerins on YouTube and prepare to have your mind blown (both the rules/strategies and his skills). In fact, if you have the time, first watch Bowen’s tutorial for Star Trek (https://youtu.be/wYZuLK6ShUk https://youtu.be/wYZuLK6ShUk) and then watch Elwin achieve the impossibly difficult final wizard mode “5 Year Mission” (https://youtu.be/3xXkefqUlnw https://youtu.be/3xXkefqUlnw)
asark 8y ago
Addams Family's great. Good middle-difficulty machine. I find the even-better-loved and similarly-laid-out Twilight Zone to be much, much harder, for some reason—I just don't get along with it very well. Some machines are more n00b-friendly than others. Some take it too far and are too easy (Frankenstein) but others hit a good sweet spot. White Water mentioned by another poster down a ways is a decent starter machine—complex enough, plenty to do to keep you busy for a good long while, but not killer-difficult (Black Knight 2000 would... not be a good one to start with). Depending on how the it's tuned it can have a couple "cheap" drains but they're avoidable with good flipper handling—carefully catching certain returns rather than letting them bounce, that sort of thing. Theater of Magic's good. Fun theme, doesn't just love to throw your ball down the drain all the time, tons to do, but you still have to be aiming & making shots or you won't get much done. Medieval Madness has a nice, straightforward, fun theme and set of sequences. It's a bit like Attack from Mars, actually, but I'd call it the less fiddly of the two, if that makes sense.

Nicely written up! What would you say are some of the best tables out there for depth of play along these lines? I hear Addams Family come up a lot, and you mention that and Black Knight as well.

joejerryronnie 8y ago

White Water was my favorite back in highschool!

mtnGoat 8y ago

The newest star wars pin seems to have a lot of sequences, I'm not sure how many but I feel like I find new ones every time I play. Monster Bash, and lord of the rings are pretty in depth too. The latest addition to my collection is from 1976 and I have yet to do all the sequences, which is pretty impressive as it's an EM(electromechanical) machine. Ive spent at least 12 hours trying. Japanese candy arcades are fun to collect and play also.

dasil003 8y ago

Twilight Zone from 1993 was long considered one of the deepest games and it’s still amazing. The new Sterns have much more complex rule sets though, and firmware that is initially sparse and gets refined to add a lot of depth. Probably the deepest and most diverse players game at the moment is Iron Maiden, it was designed by Keith Elwin who is widely regarded as the best pinball player of all time. But just walking up to a game will not reveal the depth to you. I suggest playing a game, the look up a tutorial from Bowen Kerins on YouTube and prepare to have your mind blown (both the rules/strategies and his skills). In fact, if you have the time, first watch Bowen’s tutorial for Star Trek (https://youtu.be/wYZuLK6ShUk https://youtu.be/wYZuLK6ShUk) and then watch Elwin achieve the impossibly difficult final wizard mode “5 Year Mission” (https://youtu.be/3xXkefqUlnw https://youtu.be/3xXkefqUlnw)

asark 8y ago

Addams Family's great. Good middle-difficulty machine. I find the even-better-loved and similarly-laid-out Twilight Zone to be much, much harder, for some reason—I just don't get along with it very well. Some machines are more n00b-friendly than others. Some take it too far and are too easy (Frankenstein) but others hit a good sweet spot. White Water mentioned by another poster down a ways is a decent starter machine—complex enough, plenty to do to keep you busy for a good long while, but not killer-difficult (Black Knight 2000 would... not be a good one to start with). Depending on how the it's tuned it can have a couple "cheap" drains but they're avoidable with good flipper handling—carefully catching certain returns rather than letting them bounce, that sort of thing. Theater of Magic's good. Fun theme, doesn't just love to throw your ball down the drain all the time, tons to do, but you still have to be aiming & making shots or you won't get much done. Medieval Madness has a nice, straightforward, fun theme and set of sequences. It's a bit like Attack from Mars, actually, but I'd call it the less fiddly of the two, if that makes sense.