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>Millions more are reluctant to invite the devices and their powerful microphones into their homes out of concern that someone might be listening. Sometimes, s
by intopieces 8y ago
>Millions more are reluctant to invite the devices and their powerful microphones into their homes out of concern that someone might be listening.
Sometimes, someone is.
This wording is misleading, because it sounds like someone is listening through the device as the speech is being picked up by it, but in fact it's recordings.
- jakevn 8y agoWhat is a recording? Does a 10 millisecond delay mean it is a recording? What is the legally binding lock-out time for this audio stream before a human can listen to it?
- intopieces 8y agoA recording is end pointed audio captured and stored on a server and reviewed later. There is no legally binding lock out time because there doesn’t need to be. Live-listening is impractical at scale and also worthless for what the article is describing they do with the data. Remember, this work is being done to make it so humans don’t have to be in the loop.
- jakevn 8y agoWhy is live-listening impractical at scale? How can Discord provide such a service? You seem to be conflating Amazon's intent with the unknowable intent of anyone that can touch such data, which is a common fatal flaw in reasoning.
- intopieces 8y ago>Why is live-listening impractical at scale? Because there is no value in doing so. A person could collect all the spare change thrown into fountains at shopping malls, but they don’t.
- julienreszka 8y agoIf I worked on voice search I would wish to have full context to train my models on. Full context could be year long. Ethics are an issue here for sure.
- intopieces 8y agoSure. But the devices don’t do that.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y agoBy this logic, if I watch a recording of a TV show hours or days after it's aired, I'm not actually "watching" it.
- intopieces 8y agoA better comparison would be if you watched 8 second clips of various TV shows from around the world without knowing the title and without having control over which ones you watched. Whether you consider that “actually watching” is a matter of opinion, but your ability to process and take action on any of the clips is certainly diminished.