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In what way is carrying a dedicated device not realistic? My second factor lives on my keyring and is only a bit larger than a typical door key. Everyone carrie

In what way is carrying a dedicated device not realistic? My second factor lives on my keyring and is only a bit larger than a typical door key. Everyone carries keys.

ghaff 8y ago
I don't carry my keys when I'm traveling if I'm not driving my own car. So, no, not everyone carries keys. ADDED: I do have other 2FA hardware as well. But I assume I'm not guaranteed to have it with me when I need it.
- scarejunba 8y ago
  Ah, you have separate keyrings for your home keys and car keys? I'd say that's not usually the case.
  - ghaff 8y ago
    No. I have a keypad on my door. So when I take a trip by air (which is common), I just leave my keys at home. But I agree that my scenario may not be super common.
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  - danans 8y ago
    It's common in any situation where you share a car with other people.
    - int_19h 8y ago
      Which, in turn, is more common outside of US.
Kalium 8y ago
> In what way is carrying a dedicated device not realistic? For most people, it's so far outside what they're familiar with that it feels alien and incomprehensible. It makes absolutely no sense to them. So they're not going to do it or adopt it quickly. User education will catch up in time, but that will take quite a long time.
- Hamuko 8y ago
  >For most people, it's so far outside what they're familiar with that it feels alien and incomprehensible. It makes absolutely no sense to them. The Google Titan Key looks like a car keyfob, so I don't really agree with you on this.
Spooky23 8y ago
It doesn’t add value for most applications for service providers. TOTP for GMail assures Google that the same person who enrolled the account was given custody of a key. The physical token only adds value in scenarios where phones aren’t available or you need to assure the identity of the individual.
Johnny555 8y ago
I don't normally drive a car (I take transit to work) so I don't carry car keys. I have an electronic lock on my door at home, so I don't carry house keys. I don't carry keys of any type. My phone case has a slot for credit cards, so all I normally carry with me is my phone, a credit card, my work badge, and my transit pass.

In what way is carrying a dedicated device not realistic? My second factor lives on my keyring and is only a bit larger than a typical door key. Everyone carries keys.

ghaff 8y ago

I don't carry my keys when I'm traveling if I'm not driving my own car. So, no, not everyone carries keys. ADDED: I do have other 2FA hardware as well. But I assume I'm not guaranteed to have it with me when I need it.

scarejunba 8y ago
Ah, you have separate keyrings for your home keys and car keys? I'd say that's not usually the case.
- ghaff 8y ago
  No. I have a keypad on my door. So when I take a trip by air (which is common), I just leave my keys at home. But I agree that my scenario may not be super common.
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- danans 8y ago
  It's common in any situation where you share a car with other people.
  - int_19h 8y ago
    Which, in turn, is more common outside of US.

Kalium 8y ago

> In what way is carrying a dedicated device not realistic? For most people, it's so far outside what they're familiar with that it feels alien and incomprehensible. It makes absolutely no sense to them. So they're not going to do it or adopt it quickly. User education will catch up in time, but that will take quite a long time.

Hamuko 8y ago
>For most people, it's so far outside what they're familiar with that it feels alien and incomprehensible. It makes absolutely no sense to them. The Google Titan Key looks like a car keyfob, so I don't really agree with you on this.

Spooky23 8y ago

It doesn’t add value for most applications for service providers. TOTP for GMail assures Google that the same person who enrolled the account was given custody of a key. The physical token only adds value in scenarios where phones aren’t available or you need to assure the identity of the individual.

Johnny555 8y ago

I don't normally drive a car (I take transit to work) so I don't carry car keys. I have an electronic lock on my door at home, so I don't carry house keys. I don't carry keys of any type. My phone case has a slot for credit cards, so all I normally carry with me is my phone, a credit card, my work badge, and my transit pass.