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Same as bhastrika pranayama exercise in yoga. Except you do it without blowing into a device.

by kk58 8y ago

macawfish 8y ago
Slight tangent: a few years ago it clicked for me how critical breath is in regulating the pH of the blood. The way you breath directly moderates the balance of oxygen vs. carbon dioxide in your blood, which on a basic level effects its pH. When you hear people talk about drinking alkaline water or eating alkalizing foods... the most direct thing you can do to effect your blood's pH is by learning different ways of breathing and how they make you feel. If you're brave and would like to experience just how powerful your breath is for yourself, try the technique "bioenergetic breathing": https://www.painscience.com/articles/breathing.php https://www.painscience.com/articles/breathing.php
- logfromblammo 8y ago
  Have you ever measured the pH of your blood, both before and after eating certain foods or performing certain exercises? Animal blood is a buffer system, with normal pH of 7.35 to 7.45 . It takes a lot to push it out of balance. You have the buffer [H+](aq) + [HCO3-](aq) <-> H2CO3(aq) <-> CO2(g) + H2O(l). Lungs remove excess CO2(g), and kidneys remove excess [HCO3-](aq). You also have the buffer [H+](aq) + [H2PO4-](aq) <-> H3PO4(aq), and [H+](aq) + hemoglobin(aq) <-> O2(aq) + hemoglobin(aq). As muscles produce acid, hemoglobin binds the proton and releases oxygen. A healthy body does not need to do anything at all to consciously regulate its pH; actions that can significantly change blood pH can cause alkalosis or acidosis, which are indicative of serious metabolic problems. If you haven't had a blood test that showed blood pH out of the range 7.35 to 7.45 , you never need to worry about your blood pH or blood gases, ever--unless you're a SCUBA diver or astronaut, or someone else that routinely breathes a different mix of gases from normal atmosphere. https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral... https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-news-quackery/alkaline-water-nonsense https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-news... http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet
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  - macawfish 8y ago
    Try it yourself if you don't believe me... I dare you! Lay down in a comfortable place. Begin breathing deeply and comfortably but quickly, leaving no pauses at the top or bottom of your breaths. Keep a steady rhythm of 1-2 breaths/second. Keep doing this for up to 5 minutes... or as long as you can stand to. Well within 2 minutes your lips and hand muscles will cramp up. That's tetany, and it's a very clear sign of respiratory alkalosis. No pH meter necessary! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis You are free to keep going if you can handle the intense and unusual sensations. It will get more intense. Take it as far as you'd like. At some point you may begin to experience some psychological discomfort, so I'd err on the side of caution if you are easily spooked by unfamiliar states of mind. I've experienced quite severe tetany from controlled and deliberate hyperventilation ("bioenergetic breathing"/"round breathing"/"breath of fire"). When I did this exercise, I was involuntarily convulsing as my lips and hands became uncontrollably tensed and misshapen. It's surprisingly easy to do and is an extremely powerful experience. After doing this exercise I felt a profound sense of well-being and relaxation as I laid and stretched in the sun. --- Let me state more clearly my point: eating or drinking a certain way in order to moderate your blood pH is useless if you're not paying attention to your breathing habits. Breathing is an actual way to quickly alter your blood pH. By the way, on the flip side, some people might experience blood acidosis because of hypoventilation: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypoventilation https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/... > Hypoventilation in the absence of alkalosis to inhibit ventilatory drive is a primary respiratory problem. This can result from CNS depression caused by trauma or by some drugs that inhibit respiratory drive such as barbiturates. Hypoventilation increases PCO2 and leads to acidosis. There can be no respiratory compensation for a primary respiratory problem. You don't need to be an astronaut or scuba diver to have CNS depression/trauma. I can attest to that personally.
    - logfromblammo 8y ago
      You are describing woo. Produce objective repeatable measurements, or it didn't happen. The burden is upon the claimant to make a falsifiable assertion and then support it with evidence. Please explain why anyone should deliberately choose to induce alkalosis by breathing exercises. What purpose does that serve? Have the claims ever been examined objectively? Both alkalosis and acidosis are potentially dangerous conditions, and should not be toyed with because of woo.
- selimthegrim 8y ago
  Ever seen the 70s movie The Andromeda Strain?
  - macawfish 7y ago
    Spoiler alert ;-p (I hadn't seen it but realize now it was mentioned in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis )

Same as bhastrika pranayama exercise in yoga. Except you do it without blowing into a device.

by kk58 8y ago

Same as bhastrika pranayama exercise in yoga. Except you do it without blowing into a device.

Slight tangent: a few years ago it clicked for me how critical breath is in regulating the pH of the blood. The way you breath directly moderates the balance of oxygen vs. carbon dioxide in your blood, which on a basic level effects its pH. When you hear people talk about drinking alkaline water or eating alkalizing foods... the most direct thing you can do to effect your blood's pH is by learning different ways of breathing and how they make you feel. If you're brave and would like to experience just how powerful your breath is for yourself, try the technique "bioenergetic breathing": https://www.painscience.com/articles/breathing.php https://www.painscience.com/articles/breathing.php

logfromblammo 8y ago
Have you ever measured the pH of your blood, both before and after eating certain foods or performing certain exercises? Animal blood is a buffer system, with normal pH of 7.35 to 7.45 . It takes a lot to push it out of balance. You have the buffer [H+](aq) + [HCO3-](aq) <-> H2CO3(aq) <-> CO2(g) + H2O(l). Lungs remove excess CO2(g), and kidneys remove excess [HCO3-](aq). You also have the buffer [H+](aq) + [H2PO4-](aq) <-> H3PO4(aq), and [H+](aq) + hemoglobin(aq) <-> O2(aq) + hemoglobin(aq). As muscles produce acid, hemoglobin binds the proton and releases oxygen. A healthy body does not need to do anything at all to consciously regulate its pH; actions that can significantly change blood pH can cause alkalosis or acidosis, which are indicative of serious metabolic problems. If you haven't had a blood test that showed blood pH out of the range 7.35 to 7.45 , you never need to worry about your blood pH or blood gases, ever--unless you're a SCUBA diver or astronaut, or someone else that routinely breathes a different mix of gases from normal atmosphere. https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral... https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-news-quackery/alkaline-water-nonsense https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-news... http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet
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- macawfish 8y ago
  Try it yourself if you don't believe me... I dare you! Lay down in a comfortable place. Begin breathing deeply and comfortably but quickly, leaving no pauses at the top or bottom of your breaths. Keep a steady rhythm of 1-2 breaths/second. Keep doing this for up to 5 minutes... or as long as you can stand to. Well within 2 minutes your lips and hand muscles will cramp up. That's tetany, and it's a very clear sign of respiratory alkalosis. No pH meter necessary! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis You are free to keep going if you can handle the intense and unusual sensations. It will get more intense. Take it as far as you'd like. At some point you may begin to experience some psychological discomfort, so I'd err on the side of caution if you are easily spooked by unfamiliar states of mind. I've experienced quite severe tetany from controlled and deliberate hyperventilation ("bioenergetic breathing"/"round breathing"/"breath of fire"). When I did this exercise, I was involuntarily convulsing as my lips and hands became uncontrollably tensed and misshapen. It's surprisingly easy to do and is an extremely powerful experience. After doing this exercise I felt a profound sense of well-being and relaxation as I laid and stretched in the sun. --- Let me state more clearly my point: eating or drinking a certain way in order to moderate your blood pH is useless if you're not paying attention to your breathing habits. Breathing is an actual way to quickly alter your blood pH. By the way, on the flip side, some people might experience blood acidosis because of hypoventilation: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/hypoventilation https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/... > Hypoventilation in the absence of alkalosis to inhibit ventilatory drive is a primary respiratory problem. This can result from CNS depression caused by trauma or by some drugs that inhibit respiratory drive such as barbiturates. Hypoventilation increases PCO2 and leads to acidosis. There can be no respiratory compensation for a primary respiratory problem. You don't need to be an astronaut or scuba diver to have CNS depression/trauma. I can attest to that personally.
  - logfromblammo 8y ago
    You are describing woo. Produce objective repeatable measurements, or it didn't happen. The burden is upon the claimant to make a falsifiable assertion and then support it with evidence. Please explain why anyone should deliberately choose to induce alkalosis by breathing exercises. What purpose does that serve? Have the claims ever been examined objectively? Both alkalosis and acidosis are potentially dangerous conditions, and should not be toyed with because of woo.
selimthegrim 8y ago
Ever seen the 70s movie The Andromeda Strain?
- macawfish 7y ago
  Spoiler alert ;-p (I hadn't seen it but realize now it was mentioned in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_alkalosis )