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I think most of the burn out comes from the 80-20 principle, where 20% of your staff deliver 80% of the output. I know where I work, if you work late and look

by Khaine 8y ago

I think most of the burn out comes from the 80-20 principle, where 20% of your staff deliver 80% of the output. I know where I work, if you work late and look around it is always the same handful of people who are working back. Usually its because they know so much about the organisation that people come to them to solve problems, and then they have to work late to do there own work. I feel like if you are part of that 20% it can get pretty tiring, particularly if your personal life is also under pressure at the same time. (i.e. its hard to have quality relationships when you have to constantly work late). I'm not sure if this feeling is universal, but I have a hunch that it kind of is. In terms of productivity, and organisational impact not everyone is equal, and those that are disproportionate in impact are put under increased pressure and stress during these times of efficiency and cost cutting.

scriptkiddy 8y ago
I agree with your 80/20 prinicpal. However, I don't believe that staying late at the office is any indicator of productivity. In fact, I would argue that staying late at the office may have the opposite connotation. Sure, staying late makes sense sometimes(deadlines to meet, production bugs, making a client happy, etc), however, staying late on a regular basis would indicate to me that these people are either very inefficient, need some extra manpower, or have a process problem. Hours worked does not equate directly to productivity.I think believing that they do is a toxic mindset.
- codesushi42 8y ago
  That or they have terrible management that forces them to work late. Been there myself.
- arvinsim 8y ago
  > Hours worked does not equate directly to productivity.I think believing that they do is a toxic mindset. Unfortunately, a lot of companies believe in this mindset. Heck, we have that 996 debacle on the front page right now.
itronitron 8y ago
You should try working in a position where you are in the non-productive 80%, you will probably burn out a lot faster than if you are in the productive 20%.

by Khaine 8y ago

scriptkiddy 8y ago

I agree with your 80/20 prinicpal. However, I don't believe that staying late at the office is any indicator of productivity. In fact, I would argue that staying late at the office may have the opposite connotation. Sure, staying late makes sense sometimes(deadlines to meet, production bugs, making a client happy, etc), however, staying late on a regular basis would indicate to me that these people are either very inefficient, need some extra manpower, or have a process problem. Hours worked does not equate directly to productivity.I think believing that they do is a toxic mindset.

codesushi42 8y ago
That or they have terrible management that forces them to work late. Been there myself.
arvinsim 8y ago
> Hours worked does not equate directly to productivity.I think believing that they do is a toxic mindset. Unfortunately, a lot of companies believe in this mindset. Heck, we have that 996 debacle on the front page right now.

itronitron 8y ago

You should try working in a position where you are in the non-productive 80%, you will probably burn out a lot faster than if you are in the productive 20%.