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Whats is the all in final cost for a Tesla 3 that you guys are paying in Switzerland? Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price?
by readhn 8y ago
Whats is the all in final cost for a Tesla 3 that you guys are paying in Switzerland?
Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price?
- leejo 8y ago> Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price? 60k CHF give or take, so close to double.
- readhn 8y agoi am very surprised to see that their insurance rates are NOT around $5000/year. Very reasonable $2000ish/ year.
- ed_balls 8y agoIs it really 35k in USA? Prices in Europe include taxes.
- rootusrootus 8y agoThe entry level model is 35K before tax breaks (which is $3750 now IIRC). Some places in the US have sales tax, some not.
- neogodless 8y agoIt seems like it. If I go to tesla.com/model3 and start the process for a base (standard range = 220 miles) RWD sedan, it's $35k before $3750 federal credit and $1750 state (PA) rebate. You can get it any color, as long as it's black. Any other color costs $1500, and getting rims different from the total black stock ones are also $1500. The interior is black cloth with manual seat adjustments and "basic audio." At least on this version, there are no options to change that. Ahh the next step up trim level is "Partial Premium Interior" for $2500.
- wil421 8y agoSome states have sales tax on cars and others do not. My state Georgia has a 6.5% sales tax (might be more in 2019). We used to pay a yearly tax on the average value for you make/model/year but now you just play a flat rate at sale time. Your county or city could also impose a tax on top of the states rate. It’s complicated and I’m sure it’s why car companies don’t list taxes in the US on their websites.
- _ph_ 8y agoThe USA prices are always without taxes while European prices usually contain VAT, which can be as high as 20%. On top of that there are import duties at least into EU countries. Most importantly, the deliveries in Europe started with the AWD configurations which start at $50k in the US too.
- zmodem 8y ago> VAT, which can be as high as 20% 25% in Sweden
- asdfuadirea 8y ago8% in Switzerland.
- rootusrootus 8y agoIt's not really practical to include taxes in US prices. Some of us don't pay any additional tax on car purchases.
- vsl 8y agoSome of us don’t pay VAT on business purchases either. It’s customary in US, and evil genius in EU, where consumer prices must be shown with VAT. It hides the tax (surprisingly many people, even those you would expect to be financially literate, aren’t aware of the sheer amount of it - see any online bitching about Apple’s EU prices). And that’s how you end up with 19-25% taxation of everything you buy in EU. US sales tax is acutely visible every time you buy something, it’s much harder to increase it, politically.
- oblio 8y agoI like how you manage to turn this around so skillfully. The US sucks because you never see the actual price of something you buy: you just notice it at the counter. When you ask why they don't just label the product with the final price, they say: we can't, it's too complicated. I doubt that.
- lazyjones 8y ago> Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price? The low-end 35K model 3 (Standard Range RWD) isn't available in Europe yet. For 60k CHF including taxes you get the version that costs $48500 excluding taxes in the US (AWD long-range).