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So, essentially: a) given that people has made bad arguments before b) it "seems relevant" to make bad arguments in the opposite direction now Huh?

• gruseom 16y ago
  It's relevant because it's a counterexample. Now people can't say, "If Lisp is so good why don't people win these things with it?" They have to say things like this instead: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1961546 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1961546 Obviously the OP is relevant for other, better reasons than this, but that's what my comment meant.
  • foljs 16y ago
    It would only be a "counterexample" if it was a valid example. This only keeps the "counter" part, but as an example it is flawed.
• natep 16y ago
  I think it's worth pointing out that not only is the argument logically incorrect, it's based on incorrect facts. For example: A: "Lisp sucks. If it didn't, we'd see it winning contests or something" B: "But it has been used to win a contest. Besides, you're really bad at making an argument"
  • natep 16y ago
    Wait, what? My original comment got at least one upvote, and then my edit ("For example:..."), that was meant to clarify what I was saying, is getting downvotes. Can someone explain? I'm not trying to disagree with the OP in general (you can't fight bad logic with more bad logic) but just pointing out that correcting someone's facts can be easier (and with this datum point, possible). Edit: I like the upvote, but an explanation would be better.