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Is there something comparable to the web-based IDE called Cider? Now that Amazon took cloud9 (c9.io) out of the market, it seems like there is a sizeable void.

Is there something comparable to the web-based IDE called Cider? Now that Amazon took cloud9 (c9.io) out of the market, it seems like there is a sizeable void. I want web-based Spacemacs or Evil! Or even just intelli-j.

kajecounterhack 8y ago
Cloud9 is still there https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?origin=c9io https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?origin=c9io
- jaytaylor 8y ago
  Now with that AWS lock-in, no thanks. It only serves as a reminder of how early adopters get burned, similar though not as bad as the whole FoundationDB->Apple fiasco; that one affected me personally and drove home this lesson. I don't enjoy being the insect who claimed a tall blade of grass only to be mowed down first. If you value your time and value stability, don't use closed-core tools.
  - oneweekwonder 8y ago
    The experience is rough around the edges but there is the original cloud9v2 source code living on as pylon-ide? https://github.com/pylonide/pylon https://github.com/pylonide/pylon
  - hopler 8y ago
    What is the lockin? What do you lose if you migrate your c9 to AWS c9?
tsechin 8y ago
I've tried Eclipse Che (listed in the article), and it's pretty good. I'm looking forward to Che switching its editor to Eclipse Theia, which promises to be "the VS Code experience in the browser".
anton_kosyakov 8y ago
You should check out Gitpod (https://www.gitpod.io https://www.gitpod.io). It was launched recently and provides disposable, ready-to-code development environments for GitHub projects: https://dev.to/svenefftinge/introducing-gitpod-frictionless-coding-on-github-397g https://dev.to/svenefftinge/introducing-gitpod-frictionless-... IDE is based on Theia (https://theia-ide.org https://theia-ide.org), i.e. VS Code with cloud-first mindset.
- joshstrange 8y ago
  Hmm, I was looking at Gitpod's pricing page and I do not at all like that clicking on the "Gitpod for teams" link takes me immediately to github to auth my account, uh no thanks.
  - jankeromnes 8y ago
    Hi Josh, very sorry about the unfortunate surprise, we're aware of this and agree it's not nice. We couldn't address it in time for the launch, so basically all the website's pricing options currently point directly to where you can buy them in the app, which implies a GitHub sign-in (where only a valid email is requested, NB). We're planning to add un-authed pages with more info about each plan, but we also prefer spending our time on improving the developer experience rather than on payment options, so it may take a bit of time.
- jankeromnes 8y ago
  I'm totally biased, but I think Gitpod might be the closest thing to Cider here, being a hosted IDE + container solution that continuously prebuilds your workspaces along with your code. The other options are just IDEs in a browser where you still have to hammer together your own setup + build manually every time.
HuggableSquare 8y ago
I recently discovered Coder's open source version of their web-based IDE (https://github.com/codercom/code-server https://github.com/codercom/code-server). It's pretty much VS Code in the browser, which is almost exactly what I was looking for. You just download the binary, point it to a folder and it works exactly the way you would expect (including the terminal running under the account the server runs as so you get to keep your shell of choice and all that fun stuff).

kajecounterhack 8y ago

Cloud9 is still there https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?origin=c9io https://aws.amazon.com/cloud9/?origin=c9io

jaytaylor 8y ago
Now with that AWS lock-in, no thanks. It only serves as a reminder of how early adopters get burned, similar though not as bad as the whole FoundationDB->Apple fiasco; that one affected me personally and drove home this lesson. I don't enjoy being the insect who claimed a tall blade of grass only to be mowed down first. If you value your time and value stability, don't use closed-core tools.
- oneweekwonder 8y ago
  The experience is rough around the edges but there is the original cloud9v2 source code living on as pylon-ide? https://github.com/pylonide/pylon https://github.com/pylonide/pylon
- hopler 8y ago
  What is the lockin? What do you lose if you migrate your c9 to AWS c9?

tsechin 8y ago

I've tried Eclipse Che (listed in the article), and it's pretty good. I'm looking forward to Che switching its editor to Eclipse Theia, which promises to be "the VS Code experience in the browser".

anton_kosyakov 8y ago

You should check out Gitpod (https://www.gitpod.io https://www.gitpod.io). It was launched recently and provides disposable, ready-to-code development environments for GitHub projects: https://dev.to/svenefftinge/introducing-gitpod-frictionless-coding-on-github-397g https://dev.to/svenefftinge/introducing-gitpod-frictionless-... IDE is based on Theia (https://theia-ide.org https://theia-ide.org), i.e. VS Code with cloud-first mindset.

joshstrange 8y ago
Hmm, I was looking at Gitpod's pricing page and I do not at all like that clicking on the "Gitpod for teams" link takes me immediately to github to auth my account, uh no thanks.
- jankeromnes 8y ago
  Hi Josh, very sorry about the unfortunate surprise, we're aware of this and agree it's not nice. We couldn't address it in time for the launch, so basically all the website's pricing options currently point directly to where you can buy them in the app, which implies a GitHub sign-in (where only a valid email is requested, NB). We're planning to add un-authed pages with more info about each plan, but we also prefer spending our time on improving the developer experience rather than on payment options, so it may take a bit of time.
jankeromnes 8y ago
I'm totally biased, but I think Gitpod might be the closest thing to Cider here, being a hosted IDE + container solution that continuously prebuilds your workspaces along with your code. The other options are just IDEs in a browser where you still have to hammer together your own setup + build manually every time.

HuggableSquare 8y ago

I recently discovered Coder's open source version of their web-based IDE (https://github.com/codercom/code-server https://github.com/codercom/code-server). It's pretty much VS Code in the browser, which is almost exactly what I was looking for. You just download the binary, point it to a folder and it works exactly the way you would expect (including the terminal running under the account the server runs as so you get to keep your shell of choice and all that fun stuff).