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One more reason not to support Google I guess. I don't understand the appeal of VS code anyway - its nothing but a slow Electron thing. Notepad++ and Sublime bl

One more reason not to support Google I guess. I don't understand the appeal of VS code anyway - its nothing but a slow Electron thing. Notepad++ and Sublime blow it out of the water.

alexeldeib 8y ago
VS Code has great debug integrations. I used to be fully on sublime, then I dabbled in Atom and VS code because I liked the aesthetic and value that in something I have to stare at all day. The debug integrations in VS Code were what hooked me. Very clean, extensible, and they work. It's certainly what won me over compared to Atom.
- adrianhel 8y ago
  Just curious, I've briefly tried JetBrains and VS Code, and to me, VSC just seems like a worse IDE. Why not just use a good IDE instead?
  - alexeldeib 8y ago
    I don't really want a full IDE. I basically want sublime + minimal features to help me debug more quickly. I mostly want a text editor that gets out of my way, but can whip out more powerful tools (within reason) when I need them. Vim/nano/emacs can certainly pull out power, but grokking them on as deep a level as sublime/atom/vscode requires a steep curve (and is complementary anyway). Something full like VS is too heavy for me personally. I rarely use 80% of the features, and the ones I do want tend to be more complex in the more powerful IDEs when maybe I only need some simple version. I can certainly imagine a different working environment where I would find the IDE tooling much more valuable, but it's not what I work on now. VS code being a worse IDE is, for me, a feature.
  - beart 8y ago
    You _briefly_ used both of these and found JetBrains to be _personally_ better, then follow up by asking why not just use a "good IDE?" The simplest response with a similar level of effort is - I disagree with you and find VS Code to be an effective IDE.
    - adrianhel 8y ago
      Valid point. :)
jedieaston 8y ago
It's fast enough and has enough plugins to work with whatever file you want. And it doesn't cost money like Sublime or look like it was designed in 1998 like Notepad++. If it's not a conf file which is easy enough to do in nano/vim, it's vscode for me.
- 0xDEEPFAC 8y ago
  Use a netbook and open a couple 2k line sources and see if you feel the same way...
  - Jonnax 8y ago
    Well sure. But every piece of software doesn't need to cater for low power computers.
    - 0xDEEPFAC 8y ago
      https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32
      - jve 8y ago
        Probably valid points about RAM. But in the end, productivity is all that matters, after all. If electron app will be slow, you won't be productive and will probably not use the software. I cannot see being productive in Notepad++ as I am with Code. I cannot say that VS Code is slow. Yes, for quick viewing random files, I prefer to open in Notepad++ which is already opened and opens new files instantly. VS Code I prefer for projects, but sometimes ad-hoc files too.
  - tracker1 8y ago
    2k, probably not much issue... though, last time I used a netbook (I used one as my main mobile for a few years after my last mbp was stolen). Mostly just RDP to my actual desktop for anything beyond basic web stuff, which was a pretty decent experience all things considered.
mattlondon 8y ago
Personally I found the intellisense stuff in VSCode way, way, way better than sublime, even if it was just the UI. Its been a while but for sublime I think the intellisense was just displayed down in the bottom toolbar. VSCode has a proper GUI that makes coding a pleasure.
jve 8y ago
... And VS Code blows Atom out of the water. Don't know about Sublime (haven't used it), but comparing VS Code to Notepad++ is comparing apples to oranges. We eat both, but we don't substitute one with another.

One more reason not to support Google I guess. I don't understand the appeal of VS code anyway - its nothing but a slow Electron thing. Notepad++ and Sublime blow it out of the water.

alexeldeib 8y ago

VS Code has great debug integrations. I used to be fully on sublime, then I dabbled in Atom and VS code because I liked the aesthetic and value that in something I have to stare at all day. The debug integrations in VS Code were what hooked me. Very clean, extensible, and they work. It's certainly what won me over compared to Atom.

adrianhel 8y ago
Just curious, I've briefly tried JetBrains and VS Code, and to me, VSC just seems like a worse IDE. Why not just use a good IDE instead?
- alexeldeib 8y ago
  I don't really want a full IDE. I basically want sublime + minimal features to help me debug more quickly. I mostly want a text editor that gets out of my way, but can whip out more powerful tools (within reason) when I need them. Vim/nano/emacs can certainly pull out power, but grokking them on as deep a level as sublime/atom/vscode requires a steep curve (and is complementary anyway). Something full like VS is too heavy for me personally. I rarely use 80% of the features, and the ones I do want tend to be more complex in the more powerful IDEs when maybe I only need some simple version. I can certainly imagine a different working environment where I would find the IDE tooling much more valuable, but it's not what I work on now. VS code being a worse IDE is, for me, a feature.
- beart 8y ago
  You _briefly_ used both of these and found JetBrains to be _personally_ better, then follow up by asking why not just use a "good IDE?" The simplest response with a similar level of effort is - I disagree with you and find VS Code to be an effective IDE.
  - adrianhel 8y ago
    Valid point. :)

jedieaston 8y ago

It's fast enough and has enough plugins to work with whatever file you want. And it doesn't cost money like Sublime or look like it was designed in 1998 like Notepad++. If it's not a conf file which is easy enough to do in nano/vim, it's vscode for me.

0xDEEPFAC 8y ago
Use a netbook and open a couple 2k line sources and see if you feel the same way...
- Jonnax 8y ago
  Well sure. But every piece of software doesn't need to cater for low power computers.
  - 0xDEEPFAC 8y ago
    https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32
    - jve 8y ago
      Probably valid points about RAM. But in the end, productivity is all that matters, after all. If electron app will be slow, you won't be productive and will probably not use the software. I cannot see being productive in Notepad++ as I am with Code. I cannot say that VS Code is slow. Yes, for quick viewing random files, I prefer to open in Notepad++ which is already opened and opens new files instantly. VS Code I prefer for projects, but sometimes ad-hoc files too.
- tracker1 8y ago
  2k, probably not much issue... though, last time I used a netbook (I used one as my main mobile for a few years after my last mbp was stolen). Mostly just RDP to my actual desktop for anything beyond basic web stuff, which was a pretty decent experience all things considered.

mattlondon 8y ago

Personally I found the intellisense stuff in VSCode way, way, way better than sublime, even if it was just the UI. Its been a while but for sublime I think the intellisense was just displayed down in the bottom toolbar. VSCode has a proper GUI that makes coding a pleasure.

jve 8y ago

... And VS Code blows Atom out of the water. Don't know about Sublime (haven't used it), but comparing VS Code to Notepad++ is comparing apples to oranges. We eat both, but we don't substitute one with another.